Here's a bigger pic

 

thanks, greatly appreciated!

 

Just guesstimating...looks like I might be able to shave another 40-50 lbs before swapping the seats.

-10 lbs (lightweight battery) $80
-20 lbs (Js Ti exhaust) $1000
-10+ (Carbon fiber hood) $350
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-40+ lbs

Weight reduction gets REALLY expensive after this. I've been looking at Sparco Evo II, ~15 lbs each...the brackets will be about 10-15 lbs more. I'm hoping that might shave another 20-30 lbs...maybe more. Chris, did you happen to weigh the factory JDM seats after you swapped the Bride's in? I'm guessing the JDM seats don't have side airbags, so they probably weigh a little less?

Hopefully this will net me another -60 to -70 lbs. 2240 lbs - 70 lbs = 2170 lbs

So I got bored and started crunching some numbers...hypothetical of course:

Power-to-weight (stock) = 74.4 hp/ton (using 93 hp at the wheels and 1.25 tons)
Power-to-weight (2170) = 85.3 hp/ton (without touching the engine)
Power-to-weight (2200 lbs + IK22 plugs [+3hp] + PRM intake [+4 hp] + Js Exhaust [+2 hp]) = 92.7 whp/ton at a cost of $1400...or $189 for every 1 whp
Power-to-weight (2170 lbs [Sparco seats] + IK22 plugs [+3hp] + PRM intake [+4 hp] + Js Exhaust [+2 hp]) = 93.6 hp/ton at a cost of $3400...or $410 for every 1 whp

Back calculating, 93.6 whp/ton - 74.4 whp/ton = 19.1 whp/ton --> multiplied by 1.25 tons --> ~24 whp gained over stock



For comparison, I'm K-swapping (K24a2) a 2001 Civic sedan. I'm hoping for ~2100-2200 lbs stripped, with ~240 whp at a total cost of ~$9,000. This civic dynos at 93 hp. 240 whp - 93 whp = 147 whp gained from the swap. $9,000/147 whp = $61.2 for every 1 whp

 

very cool!

using a popular 1/4 calculator as an educated guesstimate
1/4 Mile ET Calculator

I used 108 wheel HP (fudged perhaps) & the 2550 Sport model weight so I could create a base # to equal the published Car & Driver Sport MT 1/4 mile time of 16.6 seconds.

refiguring with your proposed added 9 HP and new projected weight of 2170 lbs

and the calculator shows an astounding 15.42 ET

{note, that is right in there with keeping the stock sport weight and adding 30 HP thru forced induction, where you would not get the handling and braking benefit........all for similar money with less stress on the motor than FI...)
:light bulb: Add baylorbro's NOS and you have a car that is beyond what most folks could imagine the FIT being! :/light bulb:

Question for Joel, hey what do you figure is the added HP from your BOOST in a bottle?, aprox weight of the kit?????????

the fit is no a spores car mang, it's a Chicano Econo Box, it is Asian Rice, it is your non red neck pick-up, it is your Honky grocery getter, it is................ whatever you want it to be. LOL

 

^...it's my "stabin-cabin"

Thanks for the link Mike. Have you seen a stock dyno for the GE8 Fit? The only one I am aware of is the Project Fit from Honda Tuning.


Maybe I was a little conservative on my expected whp gain from the bolt-ons...

For comparison:
2009 civic si --> 189 whp/1.5 tons = 126 whp/ton
2004 civic si --> 139 whp/1.4 tons = 99 whp/ton
2000 civic si --> 142 whp/1.3 tons = 109 whp/ton

Using 108 whp and 2170 lbs gives us:
2009 GE8 Fit --> 108 whp/1.08 ton = 100 whp/ton (this is right in line with the past few generation of civic si's...granted, the civic's can go through a similar weight loss program and net even more improvements.)

 

I believe the time would be even lower because I have aftermarket (read sticky) tires and the lightweight rims/tires translate to even greater gains than merely weight reduction. I believe the modifications above would put an experienced driver in the high 14s.

 

well true that, forgot to factor that in! (just a guess but probably close) wheel (rotational) weight loss to the scale you have done is likely adding (freeing up) around 7HP factoring that in, ET would be 15.12 ...... fifteen point one two!!!!!!!!!!!!! You might have to go bottle for 14's

you sayin the C&D drivers are slouches?


not believing that unless I see it on a calibrated scale

 

LOL. (10 char)

 

^ damn u guys... I'm trying to break the mighty 17 sec wall and u guys r talking about low 15 and high 14 sec... lol I don't plan on reducing any weight other than the back seat (but then all the stuff that I wanna add r gonna just cancel out the weight that lost...) since I am really happy with what I have right now. I think the weight that I'm hopping to keep it under is 2700lb with me in it which is not bad at all for a "grocery getter" But FYI, I think mid 15 sec is possible with just a bolt on supercharger kit.

 

That's "if" someone makes one of course

 

Super-whaaaaaa?!? That's like $3,000+ for something I can get free with weight reduction

 

I guess I'm too Americanized. Instead of losing weight, I just find something else to cover the fact that I'm over weighted lol

 

LOL...

 

You may be in serious trouble if you falsified your achievements or jobs on a resume./

 

This individual is going to be my first ignore. Just looked at your 5 posts and they really don't have anything to do with anything.

Back on subject...

Front seats just weighed(pics later):
Driver 39.6lbs
Passenger 36.0 lbs

Total---75.6lbs (didn't use any super duper scale, just a digital personal scale)

Now remember the JDM seats don't come with the side airbags standard, nor the weight sensor on the passenger seat. So if you are changing seats, you should see a bigger weight deficit.
I will weigh the Brides at another time and post up. My arm scales need to be calibrated, hahaha, because I didn't think the stock seats were that much each. I was thinking in the neighborhood of about 25lbs give or take. The ZetaIIIs if I am not mistaken weigh in about 11lbs each and the rails (non-sliding, but still a full frame) with aluminum side stays were probably about 15lbs each. Don't quote me though as I have already admitted my arm scales need calibration. If by chance I am correct, I saved about 33.5lbs. So I might actually be down to about 990kg from the stock 1050kg.

 

a peek under the skin, maybe a :lightbulb:.........maybe not LOL

 

^My guess, 14.2 in the 1/4 mile...?? Nice pic, what's the story?

 

that is member 'the gene' his 'tjin edition' show car he built early on when the GE first came out.
custom camel leather interior, BBS wheels, sunroof etc

 

Thanks to Tork for the link. This is on a GD Fit. Assuming similar gains on a GE, one could add an additional 6 hp to the final (due to the GE having 8 more hp at baseline and subtracting ~10% drive train loss from 8 = 6 hp).
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CONCLUSION
Baseline.................................91.4 HP 88.1 TQ
Fujita F5 Cold Air Intake System 96.7 (+5.3 HP) 92.6 (+4.5 TQ)
Skunk2 Fit Mega Power Exhaust 98.4 (+1.7 HP) 93.6 (+1.0 TQ)
Unorthodox Racing Crank Pulley 100.9 (+2.5 HP) 96.3 (+2.7 TQ)
Final.....................................100.9 (+9.5 HP) 96.3 (+8.2 TQ)

Final of 106.9 + IK22 spark plugs [+4 HP and +3 TQ] --> 110.9 HP 99.3 TQ

Again this is all theoretical and subject to significant error, but I'm using the most objective data available. These are conservative estimates and should be easily obtainable. The issue is cost/hp. Expect to spend at least $1500 bucks for the additional 13.5 HP and 11.2 TQ.

Once the above are bolted-on, a stage I cam would be the next best addition. A stage 1 cam would NOT require a valve upgrade. I've seen stage I cams consistently yield +20 HP on Honda motors without an ECU tune.

Following this thread to its logical conclusion, I'd say a total increase of at least 30 HP from baseline is possible with the above upgrades. And because I can't help myself...
110.9 HP + stage I camshaft [+20 HP estimate] --> 130.9 HP
130.9 whp/1.08 ton = 121 whp/ton This would give any 06+ si owner cause for concern. Because of the lighter weight, you'd prolly be able to get the jump on 'em and stay out in front from redlight to redlight.

OK...back to reality

I'm gonna shoot Crower Cams an email this week and see what they say about a custom stage I cam grind. I'll keep you guys updated...

 

Bump!

Tork, 555sexyDrive....what have you guys been up to?

I've been saving money for a ring/wedding ($$$$$) LOL, but still slowly saving up for the Js Ti exhaust. Any progress on your end?