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#21
Please. Anyone install these other batteries?
51R will not work with the GE Fit. The fuse buss at the end of the positive terminal is obstructed by the airbox when you try to attach it to the battery post. The GD Fit does not have the oversized fuse buss so you can get by with the 51R in that case. If the battery were half an inch shorter, it would work for the GE as well.
Please, if you have put one of these more powerful batteries in the 2009 or 2010 Fit, please post a picture. I would really like to see it installed. I couldn't find any, more powerful battery, that wasn't too tall or too wide or too long to fit in the car.
#22
Battery amp-hour capacity is closely related to battery size/volume. We're not likely to find a significantly more powerful battery for the stock location due to size limitations. To get more power, you'd likely have to relocate the battery and/or do something creative like use multiple P680's or similar in parallel and take advantage of their any-orientation installation felxibility and mount/strap 'em in open areas near the stock location.
#23
Gel cell
Battery amp-hour capacity is closely related to battery size/volume. We're not likely to find a significantly more powerful battery for the stock location due to size limitations. To get more power, you'd likely have to relocate the battery and/or do something creative like use multiple P680's or similar in parallel and take advantage of their any-orientation installation felxibility and mount/strap 'em in open areas near the stock location.
That's what I figured... just can't get the space needed. In my airplane I went from a lead-acid to a gel cel. They are of the same size. The gel cel, however, is 1.5 volts more. It makes for an amzingly different and easy start-up compared to the original lead-acid, in even the coldest of weather, even when left outside in sub-zero weather for 6 weeks... not to mention, no corrosion post problems or boil-over. Unfortunately, I can't find an equivalent battery for the Fit. Maybe someone will eventually make a comparable battery.
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Probably not many here are out of warranty, but when the time comes for me, I'll buy an Odyessy. A dry acid or gel are the way to go. I suspect the Odyessy PC680 in my motorcycle will carry more load than the one in my Fit.
One consideration I am sure you know, is that bad cells are intermittant trouble makers that will usually show good voltages. They shouldn't fool a good technician with a load bank though. Those intermittant starts will almost always point me to the battery. Lead acid batteries are not very tolerant of being discharged, which may be why we're seeing bad batteries in new cars. 380CCA seems pretty low. Is that really the capacity?
I'm guessing the small battery in the Fit had to do with pricing as there seems to be room for a bigger battery
One consideration I am sure you know, is that bad cells are intermittant trouble makers that will usually show good voltages. They shouldn't fool a good technician with a load bank though. Those intermittant starts will almost always point me to the battery. Lead acid batteries are not very tolerant of being discharged, which may be why we're seeing bad batteries in new cars. 380CCA seems pretty low. Is that really the capacity?
I'm guessing the small battery in the Fit had to do with pricing as there seems to be room for a bigger battery
One lasted in my BMW 1100 bike for 9 years,
so I tried one in my Maxima 3.5 V6, worked great, even in Chicago/Milwaukee winters, it lasted 3 years (which is fantastic considering it was cranking a 3.5L motor)
But get this,
my PC680 in my 09 Fit for 18 months, also spent 18 months in my 07 Fit and about a year in my Nissan V6
anyway, just sharing my experiences with this military grade battery.............
slightly off topic, as it is not bigger, but a lot smaller as you can see
Last edited by Tork; 05-16-2010 at 12:16 AM.
#26
Yeah I must say I love the Odyssey PC 680
One lasted in my BMW 1100 bike for 9 years,
so I tried one in my Maxima 3.5 V6, worked great, even in Chicago/Milwaukee winters, it lasted 3 years (which is fantastic considering it was cranking a 3.5L motor)
But get this,
my PC680 in my 09 Fit for 18 months, also spent 18 months in my 07 Fit and about a year in my Nissan V6
anyway, just sharing my experiences with this military grade battery.............
slightly off topic, as it is not bigger, but a lot smaller as you can see
One lasted in my BMW 1100 bike for 9 years,
so I tried one in my Maxima 3.5 V6, worked great, even in Chicago/Milwaukee winters, it lasted 3 years (which is fantastic considering it was cranking a 3.5L motor)
But get this,
my PC680 in my 09 Fit for 18 months, also spent 18 months in my 07 Fit and about a year in my Nissan V6
anyway, just sharing my experiences with this military grade battery.............
slightly off topic, as it is not bigger, but a lot smaller as you can see
#28
Looks good but I'd have to change cables or get some terminal adapters... but, that's not impossible. thanks.
#29
i never had any OEM honda batt "boil over" my last honda went 8.5 years, I desulphated it and kept it to use as backup power, from what I read, zapping your batt with an external charger once a year is good for the life of the batt.
#30
I've never had a Honda OEM battery "boil over", either... but I have had other batteries do it in my other cars.
#31
Make sure and do your homework on any powered cooler. It's best not to run any battery below 50% depth of discharge. Doing that frequently really shortens the battery life. 2xP680's only offer 34 Ah of capacity. So you should really only use 17-20 Ah of that. Depending on the cooler and its current draw, that's probably well under 2 hours of battery run time.
If you're gonna use it for deliveries or a a quick gas/lunch stop on a road trip it's probably fine, but not suitable for much longer periods.
#33
Make sure and do your homework on any powered cooler. It's best not to run any battery below 50% depth of discharge. Doing that frequently really shortens the battery life. 2xP680's only offer 34 Ah of capacity. So you should really only use 17-20 Ah of that. Depending on the cooler and its current draw, that's probably well under 2 hours of battery run time.
If you're gonna use it for deliveries or a a quick gas/lunch stop on a road trip it's probably fine, but not suitable for much longer periods.
If you're gonna use it for deliveries or a a quick gas/lunch stop on a road trip it's probably fine, but not suitable for much longer periods.
Probably if I were going to stop for the night I would put it on A/C, but I don't think leaving it run a couple of hours would keep me from driving away. I'll just have to do my own testing to be sure.
#34
i've had this problem with my Fit when I first got it. I know it sat on the dealer's lot a while before i bought it. I didn't drive the Fit during the winter months...but then hooked it up to a battery charger over night before i started driving it again and haven't had the problem since.
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yes, great call. Not meaning to be a cheer leader for the Odyssey batteries, but they are awesome.
Last edited by Tork; 05-19-2010 at 01:01 PM.
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