get your fits now! MADE IN USA??
#26
Your 1984 Accord was built in Marysville Ohio. I had one also and it was a great car. Still one of my favorite Hondas.
My 2003 Acura CL built in Ohio seemed more like an american car but it was fine. The Fit seems a little more well screwed together for costing half as much.
I think it's a good thing they will build them here. Nice to have one of the early ones though. Looks like the Fit will be a popular car for a while. I'll bet the destination charge stays the same.
My 2003 Acura CL built in Ohio seemed more like an american car but it was fine. The Fit seems a little more well screwed together for costing half as much.
I think it's a good thing they will build them here. Nice to have one of the early ones though. Looks like the Fit will be a popular car for a while. I'll bet the destination charge stays the same.
If you had an auto trannies they were not the best. I had an 01 Auto CL-S.
Even some of the newer 04 TL's had this issue.
Honda manufactures in U.S. have strict guidelines just as their Japan counterparts do. But it does seem the Japan built cars from past experience always have just that small extra step of build quality. Not saying the American built ones are horrible but the American built are just slightly inferior to the japan built cars fit and finish imo.
#27
glad i just got my ge8 in time...
sure, possibly maybe the outcome is different case by case...
but i also own an 07 tundra just shy of 50,000 miles, and i'm taking it in tomorrow to have the rear tranny seal replaced because just last week when me and my buddy put it on the lift to weld in an exhaust, there was red oil spat all up and around the tranny tunnel. i DO use my truck to tow my track car around, but at 50k miles, a toyota should NOT show any signs of leakage.
but mine is. and the tundra's engine is made in alabama, and the final assembly point is in san antonio. but hey maybe my situation is a fluke. but i'll bet my fit won't be leaking oil at 50k.
sure, possibly maybe the outcome is different case by case...
but i also own an 07 tundra just shy of 50,000 miles, and i'm taking it in tomorrow to have the rear tranny seal replaced because just last week when me and my buddy put it on the lift to weld in an exhaust, there was red oil spat all up and around the tranny tunnel. i DO use my truck to tow my track car around, but at 50k miles, a toyota should NOT show any signs of leakage.
but mine is. and the tundra's engine is made in alabama, and the final assembly point is in san antonio. but hey maybe my situation is a fluke. but i'll bet my fit won't be leaking oil at 50k.
#28
I don't think it really makes a difference where the vehicle is assembled but the quality of the manufacturing process for the parts... and honda's manufacturing tolerences are extremely high.
~SB
#29
I read the article, but it really is only speculation at this point. Nothing appears to have been decided. It makes sense from an economic standpoint if the dollar contiues to lose ground to the yen. Profit margins on the Fit are already very tight and getting worse. Moving production to the U.S. would lower costs.
#30
We've been through this before here on Fit Freak. Most of the Hondas you buy in NA are made in NA. Somehow Honda has managed to maintain its reputation of quality. The cars didn't magically fall to pieces once they moved the factories.
#31
Did you have a 6speed CL?
If you had an auto trannies they were not the best. I had an 01 Auto CL-S.
Even some of the newer 04 TL's had this issue.
Honda manufactures in U.S. have strict guidelines just as their Japan counterparts do. But it does seem the Japan built cars from past experience always have just that small extra step of build quality. Not saying the American built ones are horrible but the American built are just slightly inferior to the japan built cars fit and finish imo.
If you had an auto trannies they were not the best. I had an 01 Auto CL-S.
Even some of the newer 04 TL's had this issue.
Honda manufactures in U.S. have strict guidelines just as their Japan counterparts do. But it does seem the Japan built cars from past experience always have just that small extra step of build quality. Not saying the American built ones are horrible but the American built are just slightly inferior to the japan built cars fit and finish imo.
#32
Americans can build good cars. Case in point, the Accord. Americans can't build American cars because of that damn UAW. Ford, GM and Chrysler have to cut corners to pay these outlandish salaries to bolt a part onto a car for 8 hours straight. Eliminate the UAW and American cars will stop sucking. Because Honda doesn't run a union, they can put that money spent on workers into developing their cars.
#34
but loss of jobs in Japan... not sure which will benefit from an economic standpoint viewed from Japan.
#35
but looking at the stats ive heard from my teams and others working in the automotive industry, there are significantly higher rates of problems on domestic/canada built hondas vs made in japan.
also have to remember that when production site moves from japan it's tier1 suppliers often times move their production as well to maximize their logistics. that often times can lead to problems as well.
Last edited by kenchan; 10-20-2009 at 12:55 PM. Reason: grammARrr
#36
I'll weigh in and say that the majority of owners who owned both American and Japanese Hondas, including myself, feel that the Japanese versions have slightly better build quality. That's why I decided to buy my Fit last year before they build them here.
#37
wow.
the amount of ingnorance in this thread is ASTRONOMICAL.
just so you people know, the reputation that has made honda famous in the usa, was accomplished by more cars built in the US than in japan.
hondas most successuful models, the civic and accord, have bascially been made in the USA and sold here for longer than most of us have been alive.
a couple people on a effing internet forum saying otherwise is not solid conclusive evidence.
this thread is a joke. this is why honda owners are frequently slammed in other forums...because some of us have a tendency to be ridiculous ignorant fanboys.
the amount of ingnorance in this thread is ASTRONOMICAL.
just so you people know, the reputation that has made honda famous in the usa, was accomplished by more cars built in the US than in japan.
hondas most successuful models, the civic and accord, have bascially been made in the USA and sold here for longer than most of us have been alive.
a couple people on a effing internet forum saying otherwise is not solid conclusive evidence.
this thread is a joke. this is why honda owners are frequently slammed in other forums...because some of us have a tendency to be ridiculous ignorant fanboys.
#39
mugen666:Wow, Budweisers in Japan.............
Maybe aftermarket stereo was installed. Highly doubt that story.
Maybe GM paint would be better choice.
Last I remember BMW vehicles are built in Germany.
Wrong.
they also make a lot of them here in the united states. right in south carolina. passed by the plant on the way to atlanta this weekend.
maybe you should 'check' again.
Maybe aftermarket stereo was installed. Highly doubt that story.
Maybe GM paint would be better choice.
Last I remember BMW vehicles are built in Germany.
Wrong.
they also make a lot of them here in the united states. right in south carolina. passed by the plant on the way to atlanta this weekend.
maybe you should 'check' again.
Last edited by eldaino; 10-20-2009 at 04:22 PM.
#40
SB- wat i meant was All J-brands made in the USA THAT I BOUGHT failed me... im not making a generalized statement about All j-brand cars built in the US/Canada.
but looking at the stats ive heard from my teams and others working in the automotive industry, there are significantly higher rates of problems on domestic/canada built hondas vs made in japan.
also have to remember that when production site moves from japan it's tier1 suppliers often times move their production as well to maximize their logistics. that often times can lead to problems as well.
but looking at the stats ive heard from my teams and others working in the automotive industry, there are significantly higher rates of problems on domestic/canada built hondas vs made in japan.
also have to remember that when production site moves from japan it's tier1 suppliers often times move their production as well to maximize their logistics. that often times can lead to problems as well.
Production of components moving to the US would be great for our economy. Someone has to maintain the factories that will produce these parts. chances are the Tooling that is already done will be shipped here so quality components should still not be an issue. it's not as if they are goign to retool for production here when it is already done. (especially half way through a model year)
wow.
the amount of ingnorance in this thread is ASTRONOMICAL.
just so you people know, the reputation that has made honda famous in the usa, was accomplished by more cars built in the US than in japan.
hondas most successuful models, the civic and accord, have bascially been made in the USA and sold here for longer than most of us have been alive.
a couple people on a effing internet forum saying otherwise is not solid conclusive evidence.
this thread is a joke. this is why honda owners are frequently slammed in other forums...because some of us have a tendency to be ridiculous ignorant fanboys.
the amount of ingnorance in this thread is ASTRONOMICAL.
just so you people know, the reputation that has made honda famous in the usa, was accomplished by more cars built in the US than in japan.
hondas most successuful models, the civic and accord, have bascially been made in the USA and sold here for longer than most of us have been alive.
a couple people on a effing internet forum saying otherwise is not solid conclusive evidence.
this thread is a joke. this is why honda owners are frequently slammed in other forums...because some of us have a tendency to be ridiculous ignorant fanboys.
That's like saying the bmw 5 series interiors were better than a 318ti. Naturally, it's apples & oranges. Just Japanese apples, and US oranges
~SB