MPG indicator
#261
Even after I had the fix done, my meter runs an average of 2mpg high. I have only ONCE in the last 20K miles had the meter actually be lower than the calculated mileage but that was only on a fill-up of 4 gallons. Not something to reliably go by.
~SB
~SB
#262
Eh, it only seems random to you.
If you limit "version numbers" to only digits, then you get about ten times for each position (xxx gives about a thousand). But the moment you include letters, it jumps. If you know what hexadecimals are, that's 16 times per position. If you use the whole alphabet, it's 26. Letters and number is 36.
Are you assuming they're just using numbers? Cause it's already shown that they use letters in the middle.
While I can't speak for them, it is perfectly acceptable for letters to "come after" numbers... Meaning, you do have a higher version number.
If you limit "version numbers" to only digits, then you get about ten times for each position (xxx gives about a thousand). But the moment you include letters, it jumps. If you know what hexadecimals are, that's 16 times per position. If you use the whole alphabet, it's 26. Letters and number is 36.
Are you assuming they're just using numbers? Cause it's already shown that they use letters in the middle.
While I can't speak for them, it is perfectly acceptable for letters to "come after" numbers... Meaning, you do have a higher version number.
Look at TSB again under warranty claim info (and point this out to your dealer). It shows a failed (older) program code similar to yours. So appears your dealer is wrong and -A730 is not later than -4050
Have them update your software to most current they have on file and I bet your problem will be fixed.
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Have them update your software to most current they have on file and I bet your problem will be fixed.
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#263
back when this was a hot topic, i recall some dealers were trying to shrug off the issue... using excuses not to deal with it.
i was the first person at my particular dealer to mention it to them. so it came a bit out of the blue for them....... but i came armed with the service bulletin, and they did the job for me, no fuss no muss.
they also did the LMS recall work really well. no issues w/ the work at all.
i'm actually beginning to trust my dealer's service dept (open road honda, edison, NJ)
i was the first person at my particular dealer to mention it to them. so it came a bit out of the blue for them....... but i came armed with the service bulletin, and they did the job for me, no fuss no muss.
they also did the LMS recall work really well. no issues w/ the work at all.
i'm actually beginning to trust my dealer's service dept (open road honda, edison, NJ)
#264
I had Honda fix the seat height adjustment in my Element. There was a TSB out on it, and when I scheduled the appointment online, I specifically referenced both the TSB and the part # required to fix it. When I showed at the appointment, they looked at the seat and said "We just looked it up and there's a TSB on it. Well have to order parts." (facepalm!). Of course, Toyota managed to take 1.5 hrs to install my stereo in the tC, yet forgot to connect the iPod/USB connection. I pulled the stereo and fixed it in 10 minutes.
My best service experience was with GMC. Friendly, helpful, fast... I just disliked having to use them so often! I really liked my Sonoma - incredibly comfortable, good ergonomics, easy on gas (for a truck), though it was unbelievably slow (120 hp hauling 3100 lbs of steel around - think Gen1 CR-v). Too bad it was put together with elmers glue and twist ties!!!
My best service experience was with GMC. Friendly, helpful, fast... I just disliked having to use them so often! I really liked my Sonoma - incredibly comfortable, good ergonomics, easy on gas (for a truck), though it was unbelievably slow (120 hp hauling 3100 lbs of steel around - think Gen1 CR-v). Too bad it was put together with elmers glue and twist ties!!!
#266
2011 Fit base MT has been within 2 - 3 tenths of calculated. Only 15 tankfulls but 3 times the gauge read 3 tenths lower than actual and the rest 2 or 3 tenths higher. Seems well within the variables of the pump and tilt of the fueling pad.
#267
I've let this go for a long time, figuring that when the time came for me to actually NEED to take the car to the dealer for something, I'd have them do the reflash for the mileage meter as well. I had NO idea, nor would I have ever thought, that this is something that's only covered under the 3/36 warranty.
So I scheduled my car for the LMS recall, which will be the first time it's seen the dealership since its purchase in July of 2009. I also asked them to plan to do the TSB 09-086 MPG Calc Fix, but I'm glad I read the actual TSB, which stated that it's only covered under warranty. That kind of blows my mind, honestly - for something that is recognized to be an issue, is completely independent of the mileage on the car, and just involves a simple reflash - for them not to cover it because I have more than 36k miles on the car makes NO sense to me. My dealership would have charged me an hour of labor to perform the flash.
Yeah, no thanks. I'll live with it.
So I scheduled my car for the LMS recall, which will be the first time it's seen the dealership since its purchase in July of 2009. I also asked them to plan to do the TSB 09-086 MPG Calc Fix, but I'm glad I read the actual TSB, which stated that it's only covered under warranty. That kind of blows my mind, honestly - for something that is recognized to be an issue, is completely independent of the mileage on the car, and just involves a simple reflash - for them not to cover it because I have more than 36k miles on the car makes NO sense to me. My dealership would have charged me an hour of labor to perform the flash.
Yeah, no thanks. I'll live with it.
#269
"Out of warranty: Any repair performed after warranty
expiration may be eligible for goodwill consideration by
the District Parts and Service Manager or your Zone
Office. You must request consideration, and get a
decision, before starting work"
#270
Actually that TSB states that service can be covered out of warranty. Below is actual text from TSB, show this to them. If your dealer is not helping you it is probably because of them not Honda. Try another dealer if necessary.
"Out of warranty: Any repair performed after warranty
expiration may be eligible for goodwill consideration by
the District Parts and Service Manager or your Zone
Office. You must request consideration, and get a
decision, before starting work"
"Out of warranty: Any repair performed after warranty
expiration may be eligible for goodwill consideration by
the District Parts and Service Manager or your Zone
Office. You must request consideration, and get a
decision, before starting work"
#273
Search yelp to just get an idea of which dealer might be more pro-customer service . Most likely all of the dealers will rank poorly, but perhaps there will be a diamond in the rough, or you can at least pick the best of the worst.
Maybe they will do it for just a token fee, rather than a full hour of labor.
#274
its weird that everyone is saying their mpg indicator is off in the wrong direction. im on my third tank and so far iv noticed it is showing that i am getting about .5-1.0 mpg less than i actually calculate. last tank indicated 35.3 and actual was 36.0
#275
Agree with the above, try to find another honda dealer who is looking forward to making a long-term future customer rather than short term profits.
Search yelp to just get an idea of which dealer might be more pro-customer service . Most likely all of the dealers will rank poorly, but perhaps there will be a diamond in the rough, or you can at least pick the best of the worst.
Maybe they will do it for just a token fee, rather than a full hour of labor.
Search yelp to just get an idea of which dealer might be more pro-customer service . Most likely all of the dealers will rank poorly, but perhaps there will be a diamond in the rough, or you can at least pick the best of the worst.
Maybe they will do it for just a token fee, rather than a full hour of labor.
#276
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#277
You think you guys with the bad readings have it bad?
My fiance's 2011 Honda Fit Automatic says 22.8mpg on the reader after almost using the whole tank of gas. Can you believe that?
Also, when driving with a lite foot, meaning not passing 2500K rev, the car's 0-40 live reading that we have on our display shows the lines between 0 and 20. WTF is up with that.
On my Fit on the other hand, I drive it pretty hard everyday and I have roughly 32-36 readings, which is more on the normal for a Fit side.
My fiance's 2011 Honda Fit Automatic says 22.8mpg on the reader after almost using the whole tank of gas. Can you believe that?
Also, when driving with a lite foot, meaning not passing 2500K rev, the car's 0-40 live reading that we have on our display shows the lines between 0 and 20. WTF is up with that.
On my Fit on the other hand, I drive it pretty hard everyday and I have roughly 32-36 readings, which is more on the normal for a Fit side.
#278
You think you guys with the bad readings have it bad?
My fiance's 2011 Honda Fit Automatic says 22.8mpg on the reader after almost using the whole tank of gas. Can you believe that?
Also, when driving with a lite foot, meaning not passing 2500K rev, the car's 0-40 live reading that we have on our display shows the lines between 0 and 20. WTF is up with that.
On my Fit on the other hand, I drive it pretty hard everyday and I have roughly 32-36 readings, which is more on the normal for a Fit side.
My fiance's 2011 Honda Fit Automatic says 22.8mpg on the reader after almost using the whole tank of gas. Can you believe that?
Also, when driving with a lite foot, meaning not passing 2500K rev, the car's 0-40 live reading that we have on our display shows the lines between 0 and 20. WTF is up with that.
On my Fit on the other hand, I drive it pretty hard everyday and I have roughly 32-36 readings, which is more on the normal for a Fit side.
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#279
You think you guys with the bad readings have it bad?
My fiance's 2011 Honda Fit Automatic says 22.8mpg on the reader after almost using the whole tank of gas. Can you believe that?
Also, when driving with a lite foot, meaning not passing 2500K rev, the car's 0-40 live reading that we have on our display shows the lines between 0 and 20. WTF is up with that.
On my Fit on the other hand, I drive it pretty hard everyday and I have roughly 32-36 readings, which is more on the normal for a Fit side.
My fiance's 2011 Honda Fit Automatic says 22.8mpg on the reader after almost using the whole tank of gas. Can you believe that?
Also, when driving with a lite foot, meaning not passing 2500K rev, the car's 0-40 live reading that we have on our display shows the lines between 0 and 20. WTF is up with that.
On my Fit on the other hand, I drive it pretty hard everyday and I have roughly 32-36 readings, which is more on the normal for a Fit side.
Is this with her driving or you? Switch cars for a couple hundred miles in the same manner which you've gotten 32mpg, to see if it's the car or the driver. There maybe a factor of driver's technique that you aren't aware of. Perhaps something along the lines of if she happens to rest her foot on the brakes when not accelerating. With MPG that bad, and gas prices high, you definitely have nothing to lose to try tracking down the issue
#280
I'll honestly probably just live with it. This is the first time in 67k miles that anybody but myself has turned a wrench on my Fit, and consequently the first time it has been to a dealer. It will probably take another recall to get me to go back again. It's one of those "would have been nice to have fixed" things that really isn't a huge deal to me.
Took my '09 in for LMS recall yesterday and my dealer did MPG computer TSB at same time. Also torn passenger seat map pocket TSB was approved and done. I am even second owner, only had car for five weeks now. My car is out of warranty already same as yours. It was also my cars first time ever to dealer (per first owner and verified by CarFax) same as you so easy to explain to them why you didn't have TSB done previously.
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