Which new daily driver? 2009 Honda Fit vs. 2009 Scion xB
#61
Don't ask them for a quote, ask them for their best OTD (Out the Door) offer, which includes everything you pay in the end, including taxes.
Here is what I have on my Edmunds.com calc:
$19,177 (invoice + $710 dest. fee)
+ $1, 582 (8.25% CA tax rate)
+ $288 (title and registration)
= $21,047 OTD
If I were you, I would want to pay no more than $21,100 total. I bet a couple of dealers can get even lower than that, though, check every single Honda dealership in your area.
Here is what I have on my Edmunds.com calc:
$19,177 (invoice + $710 dest. fee)
+ $1, 582 (8.25% CA tax rate)
+ $288 (title and registration)
= $21,047 OTD
If I were you, I would want to pay no more than $21,100 total. I bet a couple of dealers can get even lower than that, though, check every single Honda dealership in your area.
Applying that new rate:
$19,177
+ $1,869 (9.75% sales tax)
+ $288 (title/reg)
= $21,334 OTD
What's a good price to aim for?
myke
#62
Holy crap, a 9.75% tax rate! Lol, I'm glad I don't live there, financially speaking.
I think you answered your own question with your calculations. Aim for $21,334 or lower, but if no one plays ball, set your limit at like $21,400 or $21,500. Any higher, than I would just say F-it and wait until either Fall clearance or end of the year.
edit: Are you sure it's 9.75%? In TX, the sales tax is 8.25%, but car sales tax is just 6.25%, does CA do something similar?
I think you answered your own question with your calculations. Aim for $21,334 or lower, but if no one plays ball, set your limit at like $21,400 or $21,500. Any higher, than I would just say F-it and wait until either Fall clearance or end of the year.
edit: Are you sure it's 9.75%? In TX, the sales tax is 8.25%, but car sales tax is just 6.25%, does CA do something similar?
Last edited by Vanct; 07-09-2009 at 03:16 PM.
#64
Did you see if these quotes are with or without the $710 destination fee included? Make sure that $18,852 isn't really $19,562. Also, some dealers give you a low quote and then when you get to the dealership, tack on things like $500 floor mats, ask for their OTD price (or better yet give them yours).
#65
Did you see if these quotes are with or without the $710 destination fee included? Make sure that $18,852 isn't really $19,562. Also, some dealers give you a low quote and then when you get to the dealership, tack on things like $500 floor mats, ask for their OTD price (or better yet give them yours).
And I specifically asked the dealers that I do not want any accessories added on. I prefer to buy it w/o any accessories. I know what you mean though, some dealerships add all kinds of crap you don't need or want.
myke
#68
The buyer I had lined up backed out and the deal fell through the floor.
Oh well... these things happen. I'm not too bummed.
I'm getting the car detailed today and probably will try and visit some dealerships and see what kind of trade in prices I can get for her.
myke
Oh well... these things happen. I'm not too bummed.
I'm getting the car detailed today and probably will try and visit some dealerships and see what kind of trade in prices I can get for her.
myke
#69
We all want to come too! Maybe 20-30 people in various FITs can converge on the dealerships you're going to at the same time, and offer helpful advice...
Salesperson: Who ARE all these PEOPLE?
Myke: They're the people from FitFreak.net and they are going to help, by checking invoices and other dealers and parts prices and the BBB and...
(sound of laptops being whipped out)
Members in background chanting "Myke...Myke...Myke"
Good luck today! We're all rooting for you.
#70
Well, I visited a couple of dealerships this past weekend and even went to a CarMax to see how much I can get for my current car. The offers they gave me were way too low, so I declined and decided to try and sell my current vehicle through private party first and see how that goes. I posted my car last night on autotrader.com we'll see what kind of responses I get.
Who knows, maybe in a few weeks the 2010 models might already be in the lots
myke
Who knows, maybe in a few weeks the 2010 models might already be in the lots
myke
#72
Yep, I posted it on there as well.
So far I have it on craigslist and autotrader.com
Any other suggestions where I should post an ad? Local newspapers perhaps?
myke
So far I have it on craigslist and autotrader.com
Any other suggestions where I should post an ad? Local newspapers perhaps?
myke
#74
Craigslist is a great place to shop or browse. Everything from 10 dollar bargains to 10 million dollar estates.
#75
One dealer has a black Fit Sport w/ Navi in stock.
They were willing to take in my trade in, and pay off my current vehicle (current payoff is $33k) if I bought the black Fit they had in stock. Otherwise, if they had to do a dealer trade to get the white Fit I wanted, they wanted me to shell out an extra $3k to pay off my current loan.
Screw that
Maybe $1000 at the MOST, but $3k is ridiculous just get my preferred color.
My car is currently on craigslist and autotrader.com. Nobody interested so far, even though the price is below KBB value.
Oh well, I guess I'll just keep on waiting for now. Once I am able to sell my current vehicle, I am so ready to buy my new Fit. Can't wait!
myke
They were willing to take in my trade in, and pay off my current vehicle (current payoff is $33k) if I bought the black Fit they had in stock. Otherwise, if they had to do a dealer trade to get the white Fit I wanted, they wanted me to shell out an extra $3k to pay off my current loan.
Screw that
Maybe $1000 at the MOST, but $3k is ridiculous just get my preferred color.
My car is currently on craigslist and autotrader.com. Nobody interested so far, even though the price is below KBB value.
Oh well, I guess I'll just keep on waiting for now. Once I am able to sell my current vehicle, I am so ready to buy my new Fit. Can't wait!
myke
#78
Yeah, I just don't want a black car (or any dark colored car) again. They're such a pain in the a55 to keep clean.
I know if I took the deal and gotten the black Fit, I wouldn't be happy, so I passed.
myke
I know if I took the deal and gotten the black Fit, I wouldn't be happy, so I passed.
myke
#79
I haven't washed my car in weeks. I live near the coast. The windows look absolutely filthy. But the car? Not so much. The whole thing is covered with fine dust. That comes from the mist/fog prevalent in the area and then being the parking garage the cars stirring up fine dust and pollutants that stick to the mist.
I think it has to do with white not being so shiny. It IS shiny, but it doesn't show that mirror-like finish as dark cars do.
There's a thread here somewhere, that one of the members detailed another member's car. A dark car. With swirls. The results were amazing. The car was like a mirror...some pictures you couldn't tell it was a photo of a car, because what was mostly seen was the reflection of whatever was around. The reflection being bent by the angles and curves of the car. It was beautiful.
But if it was mine, it would look like that ONCE. LOL! And turn into a car where someone writes in the dirt "Wash me!" 15 minutes after I had washed the car.
I want my car to work for me. Not me to work for my car.
#80
One dealer has a black Fit Sport w/ Navi in stock.
They were willing to take in my trade in, and pay off my current vehicle (current payoff is $33k) if I bought the black Fit they had in stock. Otherwise, if they had to do a dealer trade to get the white Fit I wanted, they wanted me to shell out an extra $3k to pay off my current loan.
Screw that
Maybe $1000 at the MOST, but $3k is ridiculous just get my preferred color.
My car is currently on craigslist and autotrader.com. Nobody interested so far, even though the price is below KBB value.
Oh well, I guess I'll just keep on waiting for now. Once I am able to sell my current vehicle, I am so ready to buy my new Fit. Can't wait!
myke
They were willing to take in my trade in, and pay off my current vehicle (current payoff is $33k) if I bought the black Fit they had in stock. Otherwise, if they had to do a dealer trade to get the white Fit I wanted, they wanted me to shell out an extra $3k to pay off my current loan.
Screw that
Maybe $1000 at the MOST, but $3k is ridiculous just get my preferred color.
My car is currently on craigslist and autotrader.com. Nobody interested so far, even though the price is below KBB value.
Oh well, I guess I'll just keep on waiting for now. Once I am able to sell my current vehicle, I am so ready to buy my new Fit. Can't wait!
myke
I personally did not want a white car but I took it because finding a sport with manual transmission and navigation is very difficult and white was the only color that had this combo in the entire state at that time I purchased. So, I took it, not a big deal, I've learned to deal with the white color even though I will secretly always wish it was blackberry pearl.
And for the record white gets dirty just like black and needs to be cleaned just as often as black does. The difference is when a black car comes out of a car wash it looks a thousdand times better than a white car.