My oil analysis results
#21
Tagged for interest, and a couple questions
1: what brand of oil and filter did you use when changing?
2: are you going to send out a sample of your next one too?
i use honda specific oil if possible, it's pricey but honda stands behind it
(just my opinion, but i'm a HONDA NUT)
DON'T GET ME WRONG i'd use other stuff and do in my older hondas but i want to see this exact evidence, i don't just believe what i see on tv -liquid ball bearings psshh get real!!
1: what brand of oil and filter did you use when changing?
2: are you going to send out a sample of your next one too?
i use honda specific oil if possible, it's pricey but honda stands behind it
(just my opinion, but i'm a HONDA NUT)
DON'T GET ME WRONG i'd use other stuff and do in my older hondas but i want to see this exact evidence, i don't just believe what i see on tv -liquid ball bearings psshh get real!!
#22
Tagged for interest, and a couple questions
1: what brand of oil and filter did you use when changing?
2: are you going to send out a sample of your next one too?
i use honda specific oil if possible, it's pricey but honda stands behind it
(just my opinion, but i'm a HONDA NUT)
DON'T GET ME WRONG i'd use other stuff and do in my older hondas but i want to see this exact evidence, i don't just believe what i see on tv -liquid ball bearings psshh get real!!
1: what brand of oil and filter did you use when changing?
2: are you going to send out a sample of your next one too?
i use honda specific oil if possible, it's pricey but honda stands behind it
(just my opinion, but i'm a HONDA NUT)
DON'T GET ME WRONG i'd use other stuff and do in my older hondas but i want to see this exact evidence, i don't just believe what i see on tv -liquid ball bearings psshh get real!!
2: Yes, I'm definitely going to send out another sample during the next oil change, and maybe another one after that too. I'd like to compare the results over time/miles.
#23
this is interesting to see. My oil is at 20% with like 5400 miles on the odometer. I'm gonna do my first oil change this weekend. I'm planning on doing mobil 1 or honda 5w-20 for the next two changes, then gonna change to amsoil synthetic around 15k miles or so.
#24
You must drive like a maniac, most people do their first oil change around 5000 and the oil life meter still reads 50 or 60 percent.
Remember guys the meter doesn't analyze the oil at all, it just counts the numbers of revolutions and throttle position and determines the life of the oil on those factors. If you were to wait till it got to 0 or 10 percent you can probably go 12,000+ on the original abrasive oil. It just sounds like a way to save honda money on oil changes, and by the time that mechanical problems show up after waiting that long to change the oil your warranty will be out. Change it at 5000 and play it safe.
Remember guys the meter doesn't analyze the oil at all, it just counts the numbers of revolutions and throttle position and determines the life of the oil on those factors. If you were to wait till it got to 0 or 10 percent you can probably go 12,000+ on the original abrasive oil. It just sounds like a way to save honda money on oil changes, and by the time that mechanical problems show up after waiting that long to change the oil your warranty will be out. Change it at 5000 and play it safe.
#25
Not exactly sure how that system Honda uses to determine oil life works. Might make sense cause I live in FL and see 70+ weather all year round. Maybe they also take MPG into that equation?
#29
1: Honda OEM filter and regular Penzoil 5w-20. I'll see what kind of results I get with conventional oil before switching over to synthetic (maybe).
2: Yes, I'm definitely going to send out another sample during the next oil change, and maybe another one after that too. I'd like to compare the results over time/miles.
2: Yes, I'm definitely going to send out another sample during the next oil change, and maybe another one after that too. I'd like to compare the results over time/miles.
#32
There is no real benefit to using Synthetic in a SOHC honda motor unless it is boosted or you live in very harsh or cold conditions. This is actually the first honda SOHC I have seen that uses something other than 5-30, but I run 5-30 anyway since I live in the bay area and our temps are always moderate.
As for the chemical results, they look alright, as to be expected for a new car first change. Running penzoil will be fine, just make sure to use the OEM honda fit filters. I have seen so many bad incidents of people using Fram or Purolator or cheapo oil filters. IMO its not worth it, buy an OEM filter, and run any dammed oil 5-20 5-30 in the fit and it will run like a champ for hundreds of thousands of miles. Save your money on oil for more mods
#33
Great thread, very good info.
Re: synthetic oil, only 1300 miles on my Fit so still waiting for my first oil change to make my decision re: my choice of oil.
However, I also have an Accord with 325k that I've had since new. Ive used only conventional oil, changing it at an avg. of approx. every 4500 mi. I've never had an engine issue to date. Still runs strong and smooth, maybe I'm just lucky, and I know this is only anecdotal, but I'm struggling to think that I would have gotten better performance out of my Accord with a synthetic. I see no reason my Accord won't go 400k+ at it's current pace unless my kid totals it...
Just my .02.
Re: synthetic oil, only 1300 miles on my Fit so still waiting for my first oil change to make my decision re: my choice of oil.
However, I also have an Accord with 325k that I've had since new. Ive used only conventional oil, changing it at an avg. of approx. every 4500 mi. I've never had an engine issue to date. Still runs strong and smooth, maybe I'm just lucky, and I know this is only anecdotal, but I'm struggling to think that I would have gotten better performance out of my Accord with a synthetic. I see no reason my Accord won't go 400k+ at it's current pace unless my kid totals it...
Just my .02.
#35
Great thread, very good info.
Re: synthetic oil, only 1300 miles on my Fit so still waiting for my first oil change to make my decision re: my choice of oil.
However, I also have an Accord with 325k that I've had since new. Ive used only conventional oil, changing it at an avg. of approx. every 4500 mi. I've never had an engine issue to date. Still runs strong and smooth, maybe I'm just lucky, and I know this is only anecdotal, but I'm struggling to think that I would have gotten better performance out of my Accord with a synthetic. I see no reason my Accord won't go 400k+ at it's current pace unless my kid totals it...
Just my .02.
Re: synthetic oil, only 1300 miles on my Fit so still waiting for my first oil change to make my decision re: my choice of oil.
However, I also have an Accord with 325k that I've had since new. Ive used only conventional oil, changing it at an avg. of approx. every 4500 mi. I've never had an engine issue to date. Still runs strong and smooth, maybe I'm just lucky, and I know this is only anecdotal, but I'm struggling to think that I would have gotten better performance out of my Accord with a synthetic. I see no reason my Accord won't go 400k+ at it's current pace unless my kid totals it...
Just my .02.
Synthetic just gives you a longer oil change interval and flows better in the extreme cold. It's not going to work miracles.
#36
For those wanting to do synthetic, I've heard that it's better to wait until your engine has like 10-15k on it before you switch. I don't know if it's true, I just recall people saying that on here.
#37
That actually is true. Same thing holds for most engines. If you use synthetic off the bat the engine doesn't break in properly. If you wait until after 15k it will be properly broken in, and you actually should gain slight mpg. On honda racebikes, its VERY important because they rev to 15k rpm. Same basic principal, just not as extreme engine conditions.
#38
You mean an OEM Fram filter?
#39
Honda Fit Accessories - Genuine Factory Honda Accessories, made by Honda for your Honda.
I have worked car, truck, and racebike service and you would be amazed how many fram and purolator oil filters will piss oil out of the sides or the seals. Some of the filters would actually fall apart, without any impact. I run blue OEM honda filters on all my hondas, cars and bikes. And OEM filters aren't fram. They are usually like a buck more than the cheapo filters, but if you buy 6 at a time from HandA, they are the same price as a cheapo filter, but OEM specs. The OEM is made by honeywell, who owns fram tho.
take a look at this website, the dude cuts open a shitload of filters, take a look at the FRAM vs the OEM honda motorcycle filters
http://www.tobycreek.org/oil_filters/
Fram
vs OEM HONDA
you can see the differences in the QUALITY of the internal parts. Honda oil filters raise oil pressure faster, and is another reason why hondas, when maintained properly, last so long. And Honda OEM filters tend to have a rounded oil seal, where cheapo ones have flat seals, that sometimes peel or stick to the engine, causing surface inconsistencies that can cause LEAKS.
The K&N oil filters appear to be good quality though
I have worked car, truck, and racebike service and you would be amazed how many fram and purolator oil filters will piss oil out of the sides or the seals. Some of the filters would actually fall apart, without any impact. I run blue OEM honda filters on all my hondas, cars and bikes. And OEM filters aren't fram. They are usually like a buck more than the cheapo filters, but if you buy 6 at a time from HandA, they are the same price as a cheapo filter, but OEM specs. The OEM is made by honeywell, who owns fram tho.
take a look at this website, the dude cuts open a shitload of filters, take a look at the FRAM vs the OEM honda motorcycle filters
http://www.tobycreek.org/oil_filters/
Fram
vs OEM HONDA
you can see the differences in the QUALITY of the internal parts. Honda oil filters raise oil pressure faster, and is another reason why hondas, when maintained properly, last so long. And Honda OEM filters tend to have a rounded oil seal, where cheapo ones have flat seals, that sometimes peel or stick to the engine, causing surface inconsistencies that can cause LEAKS.
The K&N oil filters appear to be good quality though
Last edited by Shaggs2Dope; 03-19-2009 at 03:21 PM.
#40
plus, the factory filter and washer's like $5 when purchased online... no reason
why anyone would go elsewhere to 'save money' no? i always place a few in my
shopping cart while buying parts online to save cost on the freight.
why anyone would go elsewhere to 'save money' no? i always place a few in my
shopping cart while buying parts online to save cost on the freight.