power steering noise?? help a noob out!
#1
power steering noise?? help a noob out!
early morning going to work...turn the car on..car is parked...turn my steering wheel ALL THE WAY left to get out to the street...
and then this strange noises starts to happen. its never happened before. when driving there is no noise...only when it was parked and steering wheel is turned all the way.
btw. my car has 5000 miles on it and never been in maintience yet. car says its at 50% till oil change.
anyone know what this could be?
and then this strange noises starts to happen. its never happened before. when driving there is no noise...only when it was parked and steering wheel is turned all the way.
btw. my car has 5000 miles on it and never been in maintience yet. car says its at 50% till oil change.
anyone know what this could be?
#3
I have NO idea. Are you putting pressure on the wheel while it's making the noise? Will the noise stop if you brake to stop and stop putting pressure on the steering wheel?
It's probably called "Power Steering Whine". I just Googled that, lots of info out there.
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A more typical noise from a power-steering pump is a high-pitched whine, not a squeal. Usually, if the steering wheel is stationary, meaning that the steering rack is not "asking" for assistance from the high-pressure fluid from the pump, there's little or no noise. As the steering wheel is turned and the steering gear asks the pump for assistance, the pump might whine or howl a bit.
Squeal or whine is no good with power steering
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That's one answer. Your car isn't old enough for a new pump or belts, I would think. Those are other common problems that would cause a whine. Try cranking the steering the other way tomorrow. See if the noise is there too.
I'd guess it is the above. Always look for the most common thing that it could be. Sort of like when you feel like you might be coming down with something, you think of a cold or the flu. You don't think you're suffering from ebola or kuru.
It's probably called "Power Steering Whine". I just Googled that, lots of info out there.
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A more typical noise from a power-steering pump is a high-pitched whine, not a squeal. Usually, if the steering wheel is stationary, meaning that the steering rack is not "asking" for assistance from the high-pressure fluid from the pump, there's little or no noise. As the steering wheel is turned and the steering gear asks the pump for assistance, the pump might whine or howl a bit.
Squeal or whine is no good with power steering
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That's one answer. Your car isn't old enough for a new pump or belts, I would think. Those are other common problems that would cause a whine. Try cranking the steering the other way tomorrow. See if the noise is there too.
I'd guess it is the above. Always look for the most common thing that it could be. Sort of like when you feel like you might be coming down with something, you think of a cold or the flu. You don't think you're suffering from ebola or kuru.
#5
I have NO idea. Are you putting pressure on the wheel while it's making the noise? Will the noise stop if you brake to stop and stop putting pressure on the steering wheel?
It's probably called "Power Steering Whine". I just Googled that, lots of info out there.
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A more typical noise from a power-steering pump is a high-pitched whine, not a squeal. Usually, if the steering wheel is stationary, meaning that the steering rack is not "asking" for assistance from the high-pressure fluid from the pump, there's little or no noise. As the steering wheel is turned and the steering gear asks the pump for assistance, the pump might whine or howl a bit.
Squeal or whine is no good with power steering
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That's one answer. Your car isn't old enough for a new pump or belts, I would think. Those are other common problems that would cause a whine. Try cranking the steering the other way tomorrow. See if the noise is there too.
I'd guess it is the above. Always look for the most common thing that it could be. Sort of like when you feel like you might be coming down with something, you think of a cold or the flu. You don't think you're suffering from ebola or kuru.
It's probably called "Power Steering Whine". I just Googled that, lots of info out there.
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A more typical noise from a power-steering pump is a high-pitched whine, not a squeal. Usually, if the steering wheel is stationary, meaning that the steering rack is not "asking" for assistance from the high-pressure fluid from the pump, there's little or no noise. As the steering wheel is turned and the steering gear asks the pump for assistance, the pump might whine or howl a bit.
Squeal or whine is no good with power steering
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That's one answer. Your car isn't old enough for a new pump or belts, I would think. Those are other common problems that would cause a whine. Try cranking the steering the other way tomorrow. See if the noise is there too.
I'd guess it is the above. Always look for the most common thing that it could be. Sort of like when you feel like you might be coming down with something, you think of a cold or the flu. You don't think you're suffering from ebola or kuru.
and yes it was around 39 or 40 degrees out the first time...but later in the day afternoon the same day a little warmer...did the same.
#6
I haven't even looked under the hood yet. I'm such a girl!
And don't get all BOLD on me, it makes me nervous.
Last edited by TaffetaWhite; 01-13-2009 at 06:33 PM. Reason: Added additional silliness
#8
i'm not putting pressure on the steering wheel when turned all the way. and as i turn back straight.and release brakes and go..no noise.
and yes it was around 39 or 40 degrees out the first time...but later in the day afternoon the same day a little warmer...did the same.
and yes it was around 39 or 40 degrees out the first time...but later in the day afternoon the same day a little warmer...did the same.
Last few cars I had:
86 VW
75 Honda
72 Chevy
Having a heater AND a/c that work is like a miracle to me.
I was just trying to be helpful.
There was someone new that did not get any responses recently and they were kind of upset. I just didn't want you to be upset that it seemed like nobody had come into your thread.
#9
I'll be hanging on this thread, because now *I* want to know the answer. I have NO experience with these new-fangled cars.
Last few cars I had:
86 VW
75 Honda
72 Chevy
Having a heater AND a/c that work is like a miracle to me.
I was just trying to be helpful.
There was someone new that did not get any responses recently and they were kind of upset. I just didn't want you to be upset that it seemed like nobody had come into your thread.
Last few cars I had:
86 VW
75 Honda
72 Chevy
Having a heater AND a/c that work is like a miracle to me.
I was just trying to be helpful.
There was someone new that did not get any responses recently and they were kind of upset. I just didn't want you to be upset that it seemed like nobody had come into your thread.
fitfreak.net is actually really responsive when it comes to posting and asking for help etc. the other people in the other forums are lame.
#10
This hasn't been a common complaint in the GE owners group, and I don't have the noise. Assuming that you have stock wheels/tires/suspension, there shouldn't be any rubbing issues. I suggest that you visit the dealer service dept. for a warranty solution.
#11
I wasn't referring to the outside temp. Mechanical equipment works better when it reaches operating temp.
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ROFL!
It is electric power steering, basically an on demand gear motor.
So it is sensing some torque on the steering wheel, and that gear motor is straining trying to go PAST the end of the rack or past the stop. Not really unlike the good hydraulic steering info Taffeta pointed out
So dont go hard pressure on the wheel at full lock, might be hard on the EPS.
It is electric power steering, basically an on demand gear motor.
So it is sensing some torque on the steering wheel, and that gear motor is straining trying to go PAST the end of the rack or past the stop. Not really unlike the good hydraulic steering info Taffeta pointed out
So dont go hard pressure on the wheel at full lock, might be hard on the EPS.
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And you are helpful, pretty amazing considering as a chick you didnt grow up as a gear head. I had an 86 VW GTI, fun car!
If you want to know all about EPS, check out this link and video
2007 Grizzly 700 FI - Electric Power Steering (EPS)
If you want to know all about EPS, check out this link and video
2007 Grizzly 700 FI - Electric Power Steering (EPS)
#16
UPDATE...
so it seems like if i havent drove the car for a while (few hours +) it seems to make that noise. but after the car is warmed up..or driven for a bit..there is no noise.
it has been cold outside as well..low 30s.
#17
the reason why your power steering system is making so much noise is because when you hold it at full lock and you hear that groaning noice the flow control valve inside the power steering pump (the flow control valve controls how much pressure your power steering system has, when no steering effort is applied like at idle or going straight down the road your pressure is at aprox 80-120 psi, when you apply load to the system, ei turning, your power steering system has roughly 200-700psi and at full lock or during parking manuvers the system presser is usually around 1200psi) and that noise you hear is the flow control valve seating and unseating the pressure relief valve ball inside the pump which relieves the pressure of that 1200psi so your system doesnt overload and explode, so when you hold the wheel at full lock when the car is cold you're trying to push thicker colder power steering fluid inside the tiny passages of the flow control valve and thats bad
#18
the reason why your power steering system is making so much noise is because when you hold it at full lock and you hear that groaning noice the flow control valve inside the power steering pump (the flow control valve controls how much pressure your power steering system has, when no steering effort is applied like at idle or going straight down the road your pressure is at aprox 80-120 psi, when you apply load to the system, ei turning, your power steering system has roughly 200-700psi and at full lock or during parking manuvers the system presser is usually around 1200psi) and that noise you hear is the flow control valve seating and unseating the pressure relief valve ball inside the pump which relieves the pressure of that 1200psi so your system doesnt overload and explode, so when you hold the wheel at full lock when the car is cold you're trying to push thicker colder power steering fluid inside the tiny passages of the flow control valve and thats bad
See what I mean, Taffeta White???
Last edited by manxman; 01-14-2009 at 08:27 PM.
#20
Nobody is "mad". If you had read the thread, you wouldn't have jumped in at the end of it to post about non-existent equipment. If you read your owner's manual, you will be 100% on the electric power steering. I guess. Maybe not.