Heating system in '09 - fluctuates alot???
#61
Not sure if this helps---don't have problem with 08---mind you we have only experienced -7 to 9 degrees celius so far with the fit. May have to do heated seats some how when it reaches -30 range.
#62
The manufacturers seem to have a problem with putting proper guages in their vehicles, but there are certainly after-market ones available from auto supply stores. The trick is to find functional units that can be calibrated and that don't look out of place in the Fit's instrument panel.
#63
Sciroccos were VW sport coupes in the 70's; they were based on the Golf (Rabbit) and had a transverse engine like our Fits...they were also hard to get totally refilled with coolant after a replacement. They also had a temp gauge, which made diagnosing the problem a little easier....
Anyway, stay warm all.
Moon
Anyway, stay warm all.
Moon
oh god i remember my sciroccos also. last one i had was a 1988.
#65
No idea but "txmatt" offered this plausible explanation: "apparently they thought it was somehow related to the coolant/cooling system since they attempted to bleed it and added antifreeze (a/f). I'm guessing the block heater heats the coolant in the block and they likely drained all or part of the coolant when they originally installed it and didn't get the system fully bled when they refilled the coolant/antifreeze."
#66
I can provide 2 options to help with monitoring coolant temperatures, using the OBD2 port...
ScanGaugeII - Trip Computers + Digital Gauges + Scan Tool
Davis | Automotive | CarChip Products
I have the CarChip from a few years ago (mine's the old serial port version) but I'd say the ScanGauge II is the way to go.
ScanGaugeII - Trip Computers + Digital Gauges + Scan Tool
Davis | Automotive | CarChip Products
I have the CarChip from a few years ago (mine's the old serial port version) but I'd say the ScanGauge II is the way to go.
#67
No idea but "txmatt" offered this plausible explanation: "apparently they thought it was somehow related to the coolant/cooling system since they attempted to bleed it and added antifreeze (a/f). I'm guessing the block heater heats the coolant in the block and they likely drained all or part of the coolant when they originally installed it and didn't get the system fully bled when they refilled the coolant/antifreeze."
#68
How DOES the OEM block heater work?
Doing some googling since now my curiosity has been peaked as to how my heating issue was linked to my block heater. Most 'block' heaters consist of small electrical heating elements mounted into a replacement 'frost plug' installed on the engine block. The heating element reaches into the cooling jacket surrounding the cylinders so that it is directly immersed in the coolant full-time, whether the unit is ever plugged in or not. When the block heater is plugged in, the element begins to heat the coolant. Since warm coolant rises, this creates some movement of the coolant to warm the whole block/head.
Found installation instructions here: http://www.jayhondaaccessories.com/Accessory%20Installation/2007/Fit/Engine%20Block%20Heater.pdf
Found installation instructions here: http://www.jayhondaaccessories.com/Accessory%20Installation/2007/Fit/Engine%20Block%20Heater.pdf
They have to drain the coolant out of the radiator for installation. They then, obviously, refill the system with recommended coolant after the block heater is installed. Quote "Follow the instructions described in the service manual to fill and bleed the cooling system. Check the coolant reservoir for correct level and check the cooling system for signs of leakage. Repair as necessary."
Evidently what happened in my case was that the coolant was not properly refilled, hence impacting my car's heating system. Makes sense NOW and M4psycho hit the nail on the head when he offered: "It looks like this is a common issue if there is air in your coolant system/not enough coolant fluid. This prevents good circulation while you're idling 'cause either air is blocking the way or there's not enough fluid to flow through the heater core (when you're idling). This isn't a problem when you're moving because everything is forced through quite nicely. To remedy this you can bleed out the cooling line while topping it off while the car is idling. (Open the rad cap, idle the car for 5-10 minutes and keep topping up the rad fluid until it doesn't drop anymore)."
txmatt offered: "Apparently they thought it was somehow related to the coolant/cooling system since they attempted to bleed it and added antifreeze (a/f). I'm guessing the block heater heats the coolant in the block and they likely drained all or part of the coolant when they originally installed it and didn't get the system fully bled when they refilled the coolant/antifreeze."
You guys are GOOD!
Last edited by FitCanada_Girl; 11-05-2008 at 12:44 PM.
#70
It's been freakishly HOT around here (16 Celcius today compared to 2 on Monday) so I won't know for sure if the heater is working properly until we get back down to normal...
#72
He likes to drive up to Sudbury from Edmonton so I know it's a 3 days drive! No thanks. I'm already at 4000 km after 6 weeks! Yikes. Anyhow, since air currents move from West to East over Canada, we get Edmonton weather in a few days. I actually WANT it to cool down so I can test my heater! It's 16 here right now! Crazy.
Thanks again for your explanation of my heating issue! Bang on...
Thanks again for your explanation of my heating issue! Bang on...
#73
He likes to drive up to Sudbury from Edmonton so I know it's a 3 days drive! No thanks. I'm already at 4000 km after 6 weeks! Yikes. Anyhow, since air currents move from West to East over Canada, we get Edmonton weather in a few days. I actually WANT it to cool down so I can test my heater! It's 16 here right now! Crazy.
Thanks again for your explanation of my heating issue! Bang on...
Thanks again for your explanation of my heating issue! Bang on...
#74
Oh, I AGREE! How can any car manufacturer think that a block heater is optional in places that typically get -20s and -30s in the winter? Ridiculous but this is my second new car purchase and both times, here in Northeastern Ontario, I've had to pay extra for a block heater.
#75
He likes to drive up to Sudbury from Edmonton so I know it's a 3 days drive! No thanks. I'm already at 4000 km after 6 weeks! Yikes. Anyhow, since air currents move from West to East over Canada, we get Edmonton weather in a few days. I actually WANT it to cool down so I can test my heater! It's 16 here right now! Crazy.
Thanks again for your explanation of my heating issue! Bang on...
Thanks again for your explanation of my heating issue! Bang on...
#76
Oh oh...is it the OEM one? Took 5 days for my installation, not to freak you out or anything. First one just wouldn't work so they ran (apparently) tons of diagnoses then finally figured out that it was defective! New one took a few days to come in so I went 5 days without my brand new car. Ok, got an '09 Fit LX to drive in the meantime, but still....
Oh and the "auto defrost" function does NOT work in our cars, if you are getting the OEM starter. Would have been nice to activate the starter and have the rear windshield/side mirror defrost go off, but no go...
Oh and the "auto defrost" function does NOT work in our cars, if you are getting the OEM starter. Would have been nice to activate the starter and have the rear windshield/side mirror defrost go off, but no go...
#77
Oh, I AGREE! How can any car manufacturer think that a block heater is optional in places that typically get -20s and -30s in the winter? Ridiculous but this is my second new car purchase and both times, here in Northeastern Ontario, I've had to pay extra for a block heater.
#78
Really? Well that's just plain wrong (the installing it without asking then charging). It should be included with the purchase price in Canada, just like how we get the low windshield washer fluid warning light "free". Some things we Canadians just can't do without in a car...
#79
Oh oh...is it the OEM one? Took 5 days for my installation, not to freak you out or anything. First one just wouldn't work so they ran (apparently) tons of diagnoses then finally figured out that it was defective! New one took a few days to come in so I went 5 days without my brand new car. Ok, got an '09 Fit LX to drive in the meantime, but still....
Oh and the "auto defrost" function does NOT work in our cars, if you are getting the OEM starter. Would have been nice to activate the starter and have the rear windshield/side mirror defrost go off, but no go...
Oh and the "auto defrost" function does NOT work in our cars, if you are getting the OEM starter. Would have been nice to activate the starter and have the rear windshield/side mirror defrost go off, but no go...
Another thing, all the Honda dealerships install block heaters on all their cars here, and is included in the cost I believe. And it was exactly for that reason: it's cold here, there's no point selling a car without a block heater. Though to be honest I'd rather it be an option 'cause then I could just buy the part and have a friend install it for me, which would cost me <$100 bucks, whereas the installed cost from Honda is nearly 200 bucks....huge rip off.
#80
Don't even joke about my blue dot Mister! Are you still at 13 rep? Obviously a tad cursed after the Kinko's mishap. Focus on something else aside from my blue dot ok? You're making me nervous...