So I've had my ge8 for a month and a day today, and although I'm not planning any mods until my warranty expires, i was talking to my cousin about engine swaps for my eg I'm planning on building now that the ge is my daily.

To cut my story short the idea of an R18 swapped Fit came up. I wasn't too keen on it since it's only rated around 140hp. But then we found this article by Full Race about their turbo kit for the R series:

http://www.full-race.com/articles/civic-r18-turbo-kit-faq.html

I know I haven't been able to find much of anything regarding an R swapped ge8, so as of now, it would entail custom mounts, axles, so on and so forth...but it would be pretty damn interesting, wouldn't it?

Thoughts?

If you're gonna come on here and say "why bother, just go K" then don't waste your time. I've had that converation at length numerous times. Besides, innovation doesn't happen if we sit here and toss the same ideas around again and again. It's not like anyone has actually pulled the trigger on a k swap yet anyway...well not that I know of anyway.

 

I say go for it. You seem to know what it will roughly entail. You will get some people hating on the idea. I want to one day do a B18 swap into my Fit. Far from the pinnacle of technology and performance, but it will be original and it is the engine I am most familiar with and happen to have parts for.

At least one person will point out the emissions law of not putting older engines into newer cars so allow me to beat them to it. If you are not in a strict emissions state, eff all that noise.

 

Plenty of people have K swapped Fits. The road to install is well mapped.

That article is great for people with R18 equipped Civics and stuff, but if I had to do the work and time to do a swap, i'd rather a K than R unless I had the motor sitting around in my garage already.

I'm not a huge fan of big power turbo FWD though, so my opinion is biased. IMO that's the only application that R18 would be good for.

 

Not for USDM GE's. Hasn't been done yet.

 

Oh didn't see that there. Yes.

Even more reason to ditch the R18 and be the first GE with K. Mad street cred.

 

I support this post! not my personal preference but sense there is hondata support, nothing is stopping you. shoot for the moon! TAKE WHAT YOU CAN! GIVE NOTHING BACK!

 

I'm not disagreeing with you on that, a k swapped GE would be sick, and having the first in the states would garner street cred. but the same could be said about a first r swapped, boosted GE...

oh yea i forgot to mention the Hondata support in my initial post!

The main reason why i'm more inclined to the R swap is because of the difference in fuel mileage from the R to the K. this is an assumption since i've never had the pleasure of driving anything running forced induction. I imagine if you can manage to keep below the revs a turbo needs to work at full capacity, you're not going to be burning large amounts of fuel. I don't know if i'm making sense here, so let me put it this way:

I notice that on average, i keep around or below 3k rpm during normal driving, and only go above 3k when i'm doing some spirited driving. If you set it up so that a turbo isn't spooling up to speed until, say 3200-3500rpm, then i imagine you're still gonna see fairly decent fuel mileage. does that make sense?

*I apologize if my post is long, and for my limited knowledge regarding forced induction. I'm barely starting to do my research*

 

Well if you serious have the intent, coin and cahones I would be willing to work with you on this provided our schedules work.

Do you have a coherent goal with this car? Outside of just a functioning R-swap?

I provide a discount on consulting/design for FF.net members, and lucky for you.. I'm local.

 

well, like i wrote in my initial post, not till the warranty expires. so i've got some time before i dive into this (i'm not looking to waste anyone's time with more "hurry up and wait," there's enough of that plastered all over FF as it is). But when the time comes around, i'll keep your offer in mind. as of now, all i'm considering is more power with decent gas mileage out of my daily. I drive 80 miles a day for work alone, so 20ish mpg k swap isn't what i'm looking for.

 

Well even thats pretty vague.

Pick an economy figure, pick a power figure.. or trap/ET goal and go from there.

That'll give you a much better foundation from which to start.

 

If you realy do this, keep in mind R18 from 2006-2008 are know to have block cracking problems. Honda has extended the warranties on this particular issues on affected cars.

 

Good to know, i wasn't aware.

 

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So going to raise this thread from the dead, sorry.

So I saw that China got a R18 Honda City. Apparently they also got a L15A7 honda City. I know the City shares platforms with the Fit/Jazz and I assume the mounts and everything would be shared.

Maybe I should not assume

Just putting that out there if anyone wants to look into it further. I have no need or desire to do this but maybe someone else will.

 

its only in china though. low chance of seeing mounts for sale

 

PM me if you are truly hell bent on getting these CHDM(?) engine mounts.

 

I would like some more info on this, The R swap is something I've been looking into for sometime this would really help.

 

swflej1: why do you favor a R18 swap over the K swap? If you are going through trouble of swapping why not go for the better option?

 

Why stop at K? if you go through the trouble of swapping, stuff a v8 in there.


Swapping has NEVER entailed the phrase "Use best motor out there for it"

Plenty of my old civics got fresh Ds instead of a B upgrade. Why? I like a particular motor family.



I say keep the idea of R18. If it gets nearly the same gas mileage in a car weighing 2-300 pounds more, it should not only give you a big gas mileage gain, but also prove to be a FAR peppier engine setup then the L15A7

Benefits? You can keep the R18 fully stock, do the standard cam, exhaust, intake, and tune that the civic guys do and get over 140 WHEEL horsepower.

Becuase if you swap in the R18, just use the civic underhood harness, everything should be close. The Fits gauges work with the K swaps.....

 

He could put a bone stock K motor in and make 180-190 whp. I am not saying the R18 would be a bad motor in the Fit, it is after all a bigger motor.