Revolution Concepts Turbo Kit
#23
You can make a boosted ITB setup as well
What you do is you take the velocity stacks that the throttle bodies are inside of, and make the flared bell mouth part of an intake plenum.
Then you can use an Alpha-N algorithm method to tune, which is basically just based of off RPM, Throttle position sensor voltage and a VE table calibrated with a MAF sensor in an upper intercooler pipe, and then the MAF is removed.
Or if you can fit a post-throttle MAP in somewhere you could use speed density or MAF. This would let you use MegaSquirt/AEM/Haltech or whatever you like really for engine management.
The nice part about this ITB setup and using velocity stacks is you can mount injectors at almost any angle you like and you should have room to mount more than one on each stack.
So if I do go ethanol as planned, it'll be E85 or E98 and I will need likely 8 smaller injectors to do that and make it run remotely like OEM, and fortunately the AEM FIC has an option for controlling 6 or 8 individually... Maybe I could use an ITB setup off a K20, weld in a MAP and then either use a half radiator or use slim fans between the rad and FMIC to clear the ITB plenum
Ron @ Shearer Fab or Justin @ JMFab would be the ones to go to for making something like this... if anyone with the budget to do it wants to try instead of waiting on me.
#24
You can make a boosted ITB setup as well
What you do is you take the velocity stacks that the throttle bodies are inside of, and make the flared bell mouth part of an intake plenum.
Then you can use an Alpha-N algorithm method to tune, which is basically just based of off RPM, Throttle position sensor voltage and a VE table calibrated with a MAF sensor in an upper intercooler pipe, and then the MAF is removed.
Or if you can fit a post-throttle MAP in somewhere you could use speed density or MAF. This would let you use MegaSquirt/AEM/Haltech or whatever you like really for engine management.
The nice part about this ITB setup and using velocity stacks is you can mount injectors at almost any angle you like and you should have room to mount more than one on each stack.
So if I do go ethanol as planned, it'll be E85 or E98 and I will need likely 8 smaller injectors to do that and make it run remotely like OEM, and fortunately the AEM FIC has an option for controlling 6 or 8 individually... Maybe I could use an ITB setup off a K20, weld in a MAP and then either use a half radiator or use slim fans between the rad and FMIC to clear the ITB plenum
Ron @ Shearer Fab or Justin @ JMFab would be the ones to go to for making something like this... if anyone with the budget to do it wants to try instead of waiting on me.
What you do is you take the velocity stacks that the throttle bodies are inside of, and make the flared bell mouth part of an intake plenum.
Then you can use an Alpha-N algorithm method to tune, which is basically just based of off RPM, Throttle position sensor voltage and a VE table calibrated with a MAF sensor in an upper intercooler pipe, and then the MAF is removed.
Or if you can fit a post-throttle MAP in somewhere you could use speed density or MAF. This would let you use MegaSquirt/AEM/Haltech or whatever you like really for engine management.
The nice part about this ITB setup and using velocity stacks is you can mount injectors at almost any angle you like and you should have room to mount more than one on each stack.
So if I do go ethanol as planned, it'll be E85 or E98 and I will need likely 8 smaller injectors to do that and make it run remotely like OEM, and fortunately the AEM FIC has an option for controlling 6 or 8 individually... Maybe I could use an ITB setup off a K20, weld in a MAP and then either use a half radiator or use slim fans between the rad and FMIC to clear the ITB plenum
Ron @ Shearer Fab or Justin @ JMFab would be the ones to go to for making something like this... if anyone with the budget to do it wants to try instead of waiting on me.
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for sure, you got it, gonna do our best!
#27
Why don't you concentrate on "proof-of-concept" for now...then try to adapt this to a product that could be sold. We know it can be done, several companies have already created kits and posted videos on here. If you were actually commited to (and had sufficient resources to do so) boosting a Fit, you could already have done so in the time since this thread was first started...
You're going to generate much more interest once you have something to show. We've been telling you this since you started this thread...you've spent the last couple of months asking random questions and posting nonsensical comments (ITBs on a L15a7...this is technically impossible because of the cast manifold and suggests that you really don't know what you're talking about).
Just my 0.02. Now back to another dead-end discussion on boosting the Fit...
You're going to generate much more interest once you have something to show. We've been telling you this since you started this thread...you've spent the last couple of months asking random questions and posting nonsensical comments (ITBs on a L15a7...this is technically impossible because of the cast manifold and suggests that you really don't know what you're talking about).
Just my 0.02. Now back to another dead-end discussion on boosting the Fit...
#28
Why don't you concentrate on "proof-of-concept" for now...then try to adapt this to a product that could be sold. We know it can be done, several companies have already created kits and posted videos on here. If you were actually commited to (and had sufficient resources to do so) boosting a Fit, you could already have done so in the time since this thread was first started...
You're going to generate much more interest once you have something to show. We've been telling you this since you started this thread...you've spent the last couple of months asking random questions and posting nonsensical comments (ITBs on a L15a7...this is technically impossible because of the cast manifold and suggests that you really don't know what you're talking about).
Just my 0.02. Now back to another dead-end discussion on boosting the Fit...
You're going to generate much more interest once you have something to show. We've been telling you this since you started this thread...you've spent the last couple of months asking random questions and posting nonsensical comments (ITBs on a L15a7...this is technically impossible because of the cast manifold and suggests that you really don't know what you're talking about).
Just my 0.02. Now back to another dead-end discussion on boosting the Fit...
You got it. Was just trying to get some input of pricing people were willing to spend, that way it just helps all of us. There's no point in producing a kit that nobody can afford, so we're trying to meet pricing and performance as efficiently as possible.
p.s. I'm just a rep, not the actual person building this kit, so i'm delivering information as soon as i get the information myself! just letting you all know!
From my knowledge... ITBs attach where the intake manifold is which is not casted and is therefore possible, and does not attach to the exhaust manifold. Correct me if i'm wrong..
#29
For any other motor this would be true...however, the intake manifold is indeed cast into the cylinder head of the L15a7....the same is true for the exhaust manifold in the K24z motors in the late model Accords.
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