I recently purchased an 08 base model. My old car was a 1.9 twin cam Saturn. Compared to the Saturn the Fit is FAR less powerful. Are there any cheap upgrades I could do to help this thing out? I love the car but I gotta have a LITTLE more power. Please help....

 

nitrous, turbo, supercharger, engine swap, etc take your pick lol

 

Good intake and exhaust are always a good help. A Fit isnt powerful. This isn't a horse power car.

I haven't done anything to mine yet because I wanted to get a good feel for it stock.

The SOHC has its own potential but the K20 is a great platform that works in multiple Honda/Acura products. Just depends on how far do you wanna go.

 

I/H/E and flashpro

 

To the OP. I found the same situation coming from a Saturn myself. My main adaptation was because of the drive-by-wire throttle. There is a huge delay on the pedal before you get any throttle, but this doesn't mean you don't have any power, just that you have to step on in! People use throttle controllers to remedy that problem so they can rev match with ease but the stories of them malfunctioning (nothing crazy dangerous) have dissuaded me of trying one myself.

The redline on the fit is about 7.5k I believe and I find the car really zips if you keep the needle in the 4 to 6k range. Of course you won't be getting 40mpg but its fun.

 

ive never seen any issues with the throttle lol

 

These mods so far work well for the fit. Without the flashpro all the mods won't really do much due to the stock ecu going back to economy mode. Also with the flashpro you will be able to adjust your redline to 7.5k if you'd like (stock redline is around 6.5k).

 

You must have never driven an older, cable connected, engine. Just a tap of your toe on my old rust bucket and you'd get knocked back in your seat. On the fit, you gotta press the sucker to get some juice.

 

^^ heheh ture that

 

I have made a few throttle maps for FlashPro users that feel like a cable throttle. One of which actually reacts faster than a cable throttle on about 20% of the map.

Both Tyler and myself have ditched our electronic throttle controllers as a result, and around town input is more linear. Especially rolling into gear off idle.

 

Ok. All of the above is correct, but from some one who has done all of this already a few notes...

I/H/E = 10-15 wheel horse power BUT ONLY if you re tune via Hondata Flashpro.

ANY money spent on cold air, headers, exhausts or what have you is a waste without re tuning the ECU. The Fit ECU is TOO smart. When I had full I/H/E and no tune, I made around 89 wheel hp, which is most likely DOWN from a stock car LOL.

OEM redline is 6250-6500RPM. You CAN bump that redline up with the Flashpro, but there are nearly no gains (not without a different cam or other significant VE mod). 7.5K is a little high for the OEM valve train. Mine is currently set to 7.2K. That is only so that I can achieve around 60mph in 2nd gear for longer AutoX courses.

The drive by wire throttle is a bit laggy to say the least. "Throttle Controllers" are out there which can amp up the signal rate and give you a more "manual" throttle response. BUT, the Flashpro can re tune the entire throttle plate map, doing a more effective job without risking an eventual check engine light.


Back to your original question, "Are there any cheap upgrades I could do to help this thing out?"

Only one <$100 and maybe $2-3 per tank, no re tune needed, change will get you a few HP. You can swap your spark plugs to a cooler heat range, an IK-22 and start running premium fuel (91+). This is a documented 2-3 WHP on un tuned cars. Simply put it's a way to trick the stock ECU into modifying timing. In future if you pony up for the Flashpro and a re tune, this is still a benefit.

I hope that helps, and welcome to FitFreak!

 

Hear, hear!


Been looking for an excuse to use that.

 

Bwahahahah! Thank's DSM

Also, OP, if you want to make power from your Fit, meet DSM

New Smileys are fun

 

um want should have my flashpro sometime in feb when the group buy is done

 

Whats 'a little more power' ? 5, 50 hp?

Most of the items that are offered that really don't affect warranty and don't cost too much are not very useful to get say 10 hp more. Few can add as much as 3 hp and you won't likely see the result.
The things that will getr more power like supercharging and turbocharging are expensive - $3000+ - and do affect your warranty.
You may find a supplier that offers a different camshaft that will add 10-15 hp but your warranty and your emissions will see a hit and if you live where the emissions cops hang out ...
You can just make sure you're tuned right, perhaps install low restriction air filters (not necessarily the greasy K&N's), and do some cylinder head and exhaust manifold work by competent people. which costs a bit too, but not as bad as forced induction. We've never done a Fit engine but its not unusual for Honda engines to gain 15hp merely from careful cylinder head work. If thats your idea of a little more power find a supplier specializing in showroom stock engines.
Good Luck.

 

Your gonna LOVE it I liked taking the throttle controller out, helped save some weight

 

I was jsut wondering if the DBW could be modified with the flashpro, great to hear it can. That strengthens all the more that the flashpro should be your first mod hands down.

 

I agree, just like ECMLink for DSMs. Definite first mod.

 

what parts are needed for a twin cam swap?

 

An entirely new drivetrain.

Yo DSM/Tyler, could the Hondata be used to improve fuel economy along with gaining a couple whp?