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Old 01-08-2012 | 09:49 PM
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Picture/Info Needed - Motor Mount

does anyone have a pic or any info on how to get to the front motor mount/bobble strut?

i've seen plenty of pics of the two side mounts (which support the motor/trans) and the bottom rear mount (which is apparently a pita to change in the 5mt), but no real info on the 4th in the front...


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Old 01-09-2012 | 04:05 PM
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ok so it's on the front/drivers side on the trans...

here's my thought/concern:

i was thinking about just replacing this one, because it is BY FAR the mushiest mount of the four...

but...

i'm concerned about replacing it with the filled one because it's so far to one side - i'm afraid it'll torque the engine and put more stress on the other mounts and axles...

thoughts?
 
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Old 01-10-2012 | 09:50 AM
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I would fill it with window weld for sure! that thing is SLOPPY, even brand new. to remove it, remove the 2 bolts that hold it to the actual chassis, then remove the 1 bolt (i think 1..) that attaches to the tranny.

I would FOR SURE do this without hesitation!
 
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Old 01-10-2012 | 10:31 AM
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you think it would be safe to do JUST this one?
 
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Old 01-10-2012 | 10:36 AM
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you think it would be safe to do JUST this one?

yeah i think so, If you installed a brand new one, it still sags... those mounts just suck.

window weld is tough but not solid.. I really do think you will be fine. I would for good measure do all of them though.
 
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Old 01-10-2012 | 10:42 AM
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looking at doing this this weekend... will post pics/vids
 
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Old 01-10-2012 | 02:31 PM
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I was told about 3M Dura Mix by Koi.. I bought what I need to dot the mounts an pretty sure I will find other uses for it on other projects... I have other things to finish right now but It's on jack stands so maybe I'll have it done before I put the wheels back down on the ground.... It's 43 degrees in the barn and the humidity 75.. Just right to aggravate the hell out of my arthritis... You youngsters have the same kind of stuff to look forward to, that is if you have a rough and tumble life style and work hard....
 
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Old 01-11-2012 | 09:14 AM
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with the spare set i bought off j, i don't need to have much downtime on the fit to swap them...

i already filled the three that could be filled, and i didn't want to make a jig to be able to extend and shape a beefier platform for the pass side mount...

the windowweld worked great... but did take quite a while to fully cure... but i had time...
 
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Old 01-11-2012 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by apexanimal
with the spare set i bought off j, i don't need to have much downtime on the fit to swap them...

i already filled the three that could be filled, and i didn't want to make a jig to be able to extend and shape a beefier platform for the pass side mount...

the windowweld worked great... but did take quite a while to fully cure... but i had time...

pics? I wanta see your skillz! ive seen some excellent windowweld workings. and some terrible ones. like my buddy who didnt take his mounts out of his car to do it nor elevate the motor even.. lol looks like the herps
 
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Old 01-11-2012 | 07:24 PM
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i'll try to take some tomorrow...
 
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Old 01-12-2012 | 01:47 PM
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not the cleanest on the non-taped side... but looks good from here



 
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Old 01-12-2012 | 07:23 PM
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this thread - now with more pictures and info!

the swap: the mount, really more of a torque strut, in question (on the front side of the trans/drivers side) is the easiest thing to swap... just pull the splash guards, undo one nut (3/4") and two bolts (14mm) and the stock mount comes out... this one just lined right back up, and then buttoned everything back up...

results - the meh: there is more nvh upon startup and while starting off in 1st... once you're driving or once the car has warmed up at idle, it's really not noticeable... it does change the sound of the car while you're in it - makes it sound much lower... kinda cool...

results - the good: MUCH less engine movement when launching, shifting, and downshifting... the engine is much less prone to go anywhere... i haven't been able to drive it much (it's my wife's car) but i took it for a spin and was very pleasantly surprised...

future: i will be replacing the bottom rear mount once the car is mine, because that will introduce more nvh and we're trying to minimize that with my wife driving it mostly... i don't really see any reason to do the actual motor mounts (located on the sides of the engine) because they're more to hold the engine in place, and less to keep it from twisting...

conclusion: if you're going for the ultimate car (becauseracecar) then you might want to fill the two side mounts... but i imagine for most of us, if the front/drivers and bottom/rear torque struts are filled, that will be quite good for a majority of the people out there...

there is a video of the difference that will be posted once it's done processing...

and a picture:
 
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Old 01-12-2012 | 07:42 PM
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Subscribed!!! I have been seriously considering buying the innovative mounts since at 55K miles all my mounts are now trashed and one mount is occasionally contacting my CAI on hard shifts T-T
 
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Old 01-12-2012 | 08:12 PM
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imho - don't get the innovative mounts... they're expensive...

get some widow-weld or other epoxy and diy...
 
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Old 01-12-2012 | 09:26 PM
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Old 01-13-2012 | 09:02 AM
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man it looks great! Excellent work man!
 
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Old 01-13-2012 | 09:07 AM
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thank you sir...

good luck getting yours in good working condition, and then beating the hell out of it...
 
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Old 01-13-2012 | 10:00 PM
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drove it more today... so a follow up:

love it.


it's a much larger improvement than the clutch hardline... but the two together is excellent...

if you can deal with whatever nvh increase there is with this mount, i would have done this before the hardline... cheaper too
 
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