What did you do to the GD Fit today?
#4481
25k = nsx. pull that!
ps: I have taken a sworn self promise that my next car will be an nsx. non of this crap about "omg its so rare why gut and cage it?? OMG' this will be ON THE TRACK.
right next to my other baby
except silver.. lol for now
#4484
Agreed. Buy an S2000. Any NSX thats priced less than $25k is going to be a headache all over the place not to mention you will have to pay cash otherwise the bank will bend you over on the intrest rate. They are easier to deal with than an old ferrari but still not cheap. God forbid if its been in a wreck to. That chassis is not an easy one to fix right.
#4485
Agreed. Buy an S2000. Any NSX thats priced less than $25k is going to be a headache all over the place not to mention you will have to pay cash otherwise the bank will bend you over on the intrest rate. They are easier to deal with than an old ferrari but still not cheap. God forbid if its been in a wreck to. That chassis is not an easy one to fix right.
#4488
meh...interior panels fall apart at speed...think top gear ZR-1 review. And it has a flimsy fiberglass body...i want quality EVERYWHERE and an American car WILL NOT deliver that quality in every aspect. NSX might be slower but i would rather throw money on it than a Z06...DA POWA OF DREEMS!
#4490
i drove a zr1 and many z06 vettes. no comparison to nsx. those cars are the only thing gm really did well in. if i could afford a zr1 i would get one.
i have a buddy with an nsx its not as great as everyone says it is. id rather drive my fit than an nsx.
i have a buddy with an nsx its not as great as everyone says it is. id rather drive my fit than an nsx.
#4491
I like that I can scurry around without getting too much unwanted attention and afford to do things to my Fit that would cost many times more to do to a more expensive car.. I am pretty much satisfied with the performance but will continue to make improvements in performance as I am able... I do plan to pay cash for a nice older car that offers more comfortable ride and seating but I'll be playing with my Fit and driving it as much as I can as long as I can keep it going.... Even at my age and with a good driving record there is no way I could afford to even make the insurance coverage payments on a top end performance car...
#4492
Mounted up some snow tires (and replaced a dead TPS sensor), unplugged the AC/defrost connector, put a shift knob extender on, and removed the stupid Chevy dealer sticker from the back of the hatch. Now to drive it home and see if I like the shifter or not, sitting still it feels weird, but I'll see how it feels while driving. And an NSX is sweet, I dislike Chevy's, but the ZR1/Z06 have ridiculous on track performance.
#4493
I dont doubt there are cars that perform better than an NSX but its kinda like having a 1971 Plymouth Hemi 'Cuda in Plum Crazy with a white interior...yeah there are cars that will perform better in one way or another...but they prolly arent icons. the NSX is one of the few cars that i would have just because of what it is.but you will NEVER convince me to buy a Z06 or ZR1...ill go buy and M3 before i will one of those...or a GT-R for ZR1 money.
#4494
I remember the first time I saw an NSX... I have to admit that I was blown away trying to figure out what it was.. It had the most race car look about it than anything I'd ever seen except for maybe a whale tailed Porsche 911S with super wide tires and fenders in the late 70s... If anything was to need replacing on either of those kind of cars you would be at the mercy of someone that knew you had better have some money... I'm too old and take to many medications to be selling blood to keep a car in driving condition.
#4495
I dont doubt there are cars that perform better than an NSX but its kinda like having a 1971 Plymouth Hemi 'Cuda in Plum Crazy with a white interior...yeah there are cars that will perform better in one way or another...but they prolly arent icons. the NSX is one of the few cars that i would have just because of what it is.but you will NEVER convince me to buy a Z06 or ZR1...ill go buy and M3 before i will one of those...or a GT-R for ZR1 money.
The NSX isn't all its cracked up to be. There is no comparison between the Z06 and the ZR1 either.
Same goes for the GTR and the ZR1.
The M3 isn't even in the same league as the Z-Vettes or the GTR. Not even the same sport.
Entirely different animals, all of them. And to make such positive assertions on the characteristics of any based on second hand accounts like Top Gear (as much as I love them) or just going with your gut doesn't do justice to any of them and you sound like a teenager bench-racing.
I am not saying you are one or you sound dumb or anything intentionally derogatory and trying to offend, it just sounds asinine to others who have actual experience in the matter.
Like solbrothers said, best bang for your buck BY FAR is the Z06, and the quality is there too.
It's not an S-Class but it sure as sh!t ain't a Malibu either.
Having actually driven an NSX and a Z06, I wouldn't waste my time with an NSX.
Granted the Z06 takes more skill to pilot towards the edge. But that's the whole point of the car.
There are two recent iterations of the Z06 by the way, and I am talking about the 2006+ 7.0L.
#4497
Subjective statement.
Also, expensive as hell to modify for marginal gains.
For the amount of money that was likely put into that example he could've possibly bought a used '10 ZR1.
Also, expensive as hell to modify for marginal gains.
For the amount of money that was likely put into that example he could've possibly bought a used '10 ZR1.
Last edited by DiamondStarMonsters; 12-22-2011 at 02:31 AM.
#4499
I don't think I am any where near having spent what I would have to spend to get a Mini Clubman S... Except for the better rear suspension and electronic LSD that the Clubman S has I feel like a boosted Fit with other after market parts to improve handling is as good a car as far as performance and better as far as practicality and reliability... Replacement parts are cheaper and easily located and insurance cost is much less... I can't do anything about the torsion beam rear suspension but there are clutch type LSDs, close ratio gear sets and lighter flywheels that would make the Fit even better than it is and better in many ways than a lot of cars that are much more costly...... There have been a number of drivers in cars that are known to be fast that have been surprised and humiliated by my little Fit and it is a lot of fun to see the looks on their faces... You can mess around with these little cars, make them handle better, go faster and still drive them for years without going broke... Why would anyone want to go into serious debt for a car that you lose much more money on if you do the same kind of things to it as you can do for less to a Fit... I've had more fun with little FWD hatch backs than any other type of car I have owned, followed by FWD pickups and air cooled Beetles and Thing's...
#4500
I hear ya and am no stranger to throwing money into cars that make others scratch their heads. I guess I just don't get the fascination with the NSX anymore. Is it because of the exclusivity?
When they came out they were certainly something special, no question.
I will happily chat on about how the NSX was the brainchild of some brilliant people, with input from Pininfarina, Senna, Murray, et al. We in the US, of course didn't get the cream of the crop like the NSX-R, excluding the Zanardi's.
Pleasant ride, and well mannered - for the most part. More prevalent on the track was the constant suspension battle waged by Honda's engineers. More specifically, the fight against excessive understeer after they tried to sort out the original sudden snap oversteer by changing the k-rate bias from back to front.
Stiffening the chassis only helped so much, and eventually they had to find a compromise between the two. Seems to be inherent to that particular chassis/engine lay-out.
I love me some midship, aft-engine rwd like the 430, but the NSX just didn't feel right. It hasn't been competitive with its rivals since the base C5 Vette and the Ferrari 355 were newly delivered to dealer lots.
And at least you expect the Corvette to be a blatant axe-murderer when you aren't on your game.
Both are great looking cars, but that is kind of secondary for me and looks are up to the individual. Thank goodness we don't all have the same opinion on what looks good, or cars would be quite bland and lacking in personality.
Parts for the "vette are everywhere, and cheap. Fortunately the NSX, at least the first generation to this point has been reliable now for nearly twenty years, cuz lord help you if you shunt it. Don't hear about many issues with the latest crop either, being that they are Honda's after all.
Would I be happy with either in my stable? Of course. Does my pedantic technical and "practical" side point me towards one over the other if I was to own and attempt to use it to its potential? Certainly. A former client's 2007 7.0L is looking to be my next big project in a couple years when I get my 200mph license on the salt in the 1G.
For exclusivity the NSX wins, hands down. There's a half dozen in my area, and I have seen maybe 25 on the road since they came out. Outside of that it's a resounding "meh."
When they came out they were certainly something special, no question.
I will happily chat on about how the NSX was the brainchild of some brilliant people, with input from Pininfarina, Senna, Murray, et al. We in the US, of course didn't get the cream of the crop like the NSX-R, excluding the Zanardi's.
Pleasant ride, and well mannered - for the most part. More prevalent on the track was the constant suspension battle waged by Honda's engineers. More specifically, the fight against excessive understeer after they tried to sort out the original sudden snap oversteer by changing the k-rate bias from back to front.
Stiffening the chassis only helped so much, and eventually they had to find a compromise between the two. Seems to be inherent to that particular chassis/engine lay-out.
I love me some midship, aft-engine rwd like the 430, but the NSX just didn't feel right. It hasn't been competitive with its rivals since the base C5 Vette and the Ferrari 355 were newly delivered to dealer lots.
And at least you expect the Corvette to be a blatant axe-murderer when you aren't on your game.
Both are great looking cars, but that is kind of secondary for me and looks are up to the individual. Thank goodness we don't all have the same opinion on what looks good, or cars would be quite bland and lacking in personality.
Parts for the "vette are everywhere, and cheap. Fortunately the NSX, at least the first generation to this point has been reliable now for nearly twenty years, cuz lord help you if you shunt it. Don't hear about many issues with the latest crop either, being that they are Honda's after all.
Would I be happy with either in my stable? Of course. Does my pedantic technical and "practical" side point me towards one over the other if I was to own and attempt to use it to its potential? Certainly. A former client's 2007 7.0L is looking to be my next big project in a couple years when I get my 200mph license on the salt in the 1G.
For exclusivity the NSX wins, hands down. There's a half dozen in my area, and I have seen maybe 25 on the road since they came out. Outside of that it's a resounding "meh."
Last edited by DiamondStarMonsters; 12-22-2011 at 05:55 AM.