does any one know how to remove ecu or governer chip in 07 honda fit
#1
05-22-2009, 03:12 AM
does any one know how to remove ecu or governer chip in 07 honda fit
I really want to unleash my rpm's but the chip is obviously holding my fit back.
Does anyone know how to remove it...
possibly make a vid or pics.
and if i do remove it, do i need another sort of chip like a performance chip in its place?
(and by chip i do mean governor or ecu or chip)
Does anyone know how to remove it...
possibly make a vid or pics.
and if i do remove it, do i need another sort of chip like a performance chip in its place?
(and by chip i do mean governor or ecu or chip)
#2
05-22-2009, 04:29 AM
the car doesnt have a removable chip etc
you probably need a power programmer or or stand alone management or something like that
you probably need a power programmer or or stand alone management or something like that
#4
05-22-2009, 10:23 PM
Buy an AEM standalone and do some motor work and tune it. Not gonna get much gains by reving higher. When I dynoed my accord I could see where I stopped making power and it gave me a better idea of when to shift etc..
#6
05-23-2009, 12:00 AM
Well this is an easy question to answer
-The L15A1 is only making about 70 lb-ft at redline stock, it's already out of breath. Look at that torque just die off.
-There is no governor chip, the entire powertrain operation is controlled by the ECU/PCM, which virtually no one can modify (excepting Hondata's kwsc reflash).
-No point in removing the speed governor, you'd have to go to Montana to find a road long enough to exploit it, or die trying when the car gets blown off the road by a gust of wind.
from RichXKU on cleanmpg, claimed 100% stock.
-The L15A1 is only making about 70 lb-ft at redline stock, it's already out of breath. Look at that torque just die off.
-There is no governor chip, the entire powertrain operation is controlled by the ECU/PCM, which virtually no one can modify (excepting Hondata's kwsc reflash).
-No point in removing the speed governor, you'd have to go to Montana to find a road long enough to exploit it, or die trying when the car gets blown off the road by a gust of wind.
from RichXKU on cleanmpg, claimed 100% stock.
#7
05-23-2009, 01:33 AM
So yeah thanks for the help guys.
i actually found out that you have to swap the ecu with kpro and that can only be possible if you send it to a dealer.
Wack.
Any other ideas besides turbo, exhaust to bost my speed and hp?
i actually found out that you have to swap the ecu with kpro and that can only be possible if you send it to a dealer.
Wack.
Any other ideas besides turbo, exhaust to bost my speed and hp?
#8
05-23-2009, 01:40 AM
This is really fascinating. Looks like an 08, 109 HP?
Has anyone seen a dyno curve for the 2009 with i-VTEC? I suspect that falloff was lifted up somewhat in 2009 to get the advertised 8 HP gain. My 09 feels right shifting at 6600.
In my opinion the optimum shiftpoints will straddle the peak HP, say at 6300 RPM with upshift landing on 5400 RPM. Ideally the ratio of the present to next gear will match the ratio of the torque dropoff at the shift points. In this case it is a downward torque curve which will not give the sensation of a large peak, but will nonetheless optimize acceleration since HP will stay as high as possible between shifts. On a GTECH you would see the g-s gradually decrease from zero to sixty instead of surge with each shift.
I agree with polaski that extending the RPM won't buy you much. However this engine has a reasonable (read flat) torque curve. It looks like a scaled down musclecar that put out low end torque and wheezed at high RPMs. More pleasant to drive than the traditional riced engine where torque increases with RPM. My 1995 GTI VR6 drives like this and the 6600 RPM redline is very annoying, I tend to crash into it if I don't watch the telltale. I'd like to rev it out of breath just a little so the upshift lands on a stronger torque point. At 6600 it lands too far down.
An extreme counterexample is the early Subaru WRX auto where the turbo lag occured between shift points. The torque dropped off subsrtantially during the upshift, then midway between shifts suddenly kicked in and went crazy just when the next shift point comes. Impressive seat of the pants but terrible driveability. You only got the 224 HP half the time, the other half was Toyota Tercel mode.
Has anyone seen a dyno curve for the 2009 with i-VTEC? I suspect that falloff was lifted up somewhat in 2009 to get the advertised 8 HP gain. My 09 feels right shifting at 6600.
In my opinion the optimum shiftpoints will straddle the peak HP, say at 6300 RPM with upshift landing on 5400 RPM. Ideally the ratio of the present to next gear will match the ratio of the torque dropoff at the shift points. In this case it is a downward torque curve which will not give the sensation of a large peak, but will nonetheless optimize acceleration since HP will stay as high as possible between shifts. On a GTECH you would see the g-s gradually decrease from zero to sixty instead of surge with each shift.
I agree with polaski that extending the RPM won't buy you much. However this engine has a reasonable (read flat) torque curve. It looks like a scaled down musclecar that put out low end torque and wheezed at high RPMs. More pleasant to drive than the traditional riced engine where torque increases with RPM. My 1995 GTI VR6 drives like this and the 6600 RPM redline is very annoying, I tend to crash into it if I don't watch the telltale. I'd like to rev it out of breath just a little so the upshift lands on a stronger torque point. At 6600 it lands too far down.
An extreme counterexample is the early Subaru WRX auto where the turbo lag occured between shift points. The torque dropped off subsrtantially during the upshift, then midway between shifts suddenly kicked in and went crazy just when the next shift point comes. Impressive seat of the pants but terrible driveability. You only got the 224 HP half the time, the other half was Toyota Tercel mode.
#10
07-13-2010, 12:20 PM
Sadly
I don't have any update on this.
After about 4 months of feeling the joy in my Fit, I was hit by a drunk idiot in July of 2001 and my car was totalled. No chance to do much to my fit and its performance. Idiots. Don't drive drunk.
After about 4 months of feeling the joy in my Fit, I was hit by a drunk idiot in July of 2001 and my car was totalled. No chance to do much to my fit and its performance. Idiots. Don't drive drunk.
#13
07-15-2010, 09:59 AM
you cant run Kpro on a fit ecu. kraftwerk runs a reflash for the SC
#17
07-17-2010, 09:09 PM
Sorry guys, I meant a 2007 fit. Not 2001. And yeah Hondata has no sort of kpro for the fit because there is not enough potential, supposedly, in the d15 it is? I wrote this thread and I think I was pretty dumb to write it. You can't pull out your ecu. It has to be reprogrammed or chipped which no one has a clue on how to do. I went with something a bit faster. I'm now driving an 05 Mazda 3s hatch. Stock 160 hp? I think. Magnaflow dual exhaust which sounds like a beast. AEM cai. Grounded throttlebody for lack og lag. Runs great. Boost soon, hopefully.
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