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Old 06-08-2021 | 04:23 PM
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CVT car failing to launch from stop?

I’ve got an ’02 Fit with CVT. When I come to a stop at a light, with foot on the brake and car in ‘D’. When I let off the brake, sometimes the car will make like it’s trying to go forward, and then almost “stall” in that it won’t engage the gear and it will be like it is in neutral. Revs will then kind of oscillate, going up, then down, up, then down and make some vibrations along the way at lower revs. To get over this I’ll have to switch back to neutral, then back into ‘D’ quickly, and then it’ll engage and go.

This tends to happen only on level ground. It doesn’t happen every time either. It does not seem to happen in reverse. When I come to a stop, I can feel small vibrations. Sometimes these diminish to almost nothing (I presume the car is disengaging the start clutch or something??). It tends to be that when the vibrations when stopped are smallest or not existent, I have this issue with the drive gear re-engaging. When the vibrations are stronger at a stop, the car launches normally.

I’ve already replaced the transmission mount under the battery that often fails in these. I’ve tried to visually inspect the opposite side, top motor mount as well as the mount underneath toward the back and center. They both didn’t seem too obviously worn, but I can’t be sure.

When I disconnected/reconnected the battery after replacing the mount, I didn’t have these issues, though the car would vibrate a bit at a stop. It’s like the ECU has been slowly learning and adapting in a way that it’s trying to increasingly disengage the clutch at a stop to reduce the vibrations, but then leads to a point where I have this issue where it doesn’t launch (foot off brake, revs go down, car vibrates, gear doesn’t engage, revs go up as though car is in neutral, revs go down and repeat)

Any ideas? Is the CVT/ start clutch on the way out? I replaced the CVT fluid not long ago

Are the other motor/transmission mounts worn out? Are there more than just the 3 of them?

Anything else?
 
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Old 06-13-2021 | 07:39 PM
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any ideas??
Could it have something to do with timing or engine ignition?

I'm not positive, but it seems like this situation could be worse when the car is warmed up? ie, running less rich?
Engine runs fine once the car gets going. No misfires or anything like that yet.
 

Last edited by ansys; 06-13-2021 at 07:46 PM.
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